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Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454861#msg454861
« on: January 30, 2012, 05:24:20 pm »
after trying the numerous arena farms posted here in the forum, like the JMZ classic, tha gold league killer and others, i decided i would too make a deck like that, working well i guess:

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it has some standard cards, like TU, explosions, etc... but what makes this deck that good is that it powers itself with killing creatures, opponent's or your own

many CC options between maxwell's demon, oty, bloodsucker and EE
PC options, mandatory against arena
decent rush power with our friends graboids, golem and cards to increase its damage potential

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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454869#msg454869
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 05:35:32 pm »
The cremation right there looks too gimmicky to be practical...
Also, why the condor instead of graveyard?
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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454871#msg454871
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 05:38:35 pm »
The cremation right there looks too gimmicky to be practical...
Also, why the condor instead of graveyard?
cremation is optional, although it solves the lack of  :fire quanta and fits well in the theme

i was gonna put graveyard, but if it gets stolen, i might generate a lot of skeletons that will smash through my bonewall, but it can be changed if you think it works better, because of the oty

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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454881#msg454881
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 05:52:52 pm »
i was gonna put graveyard, but if it gets stolen, i might generate a lot of skeletons that will smash through my bonewall, but it can be changed if you think it works better, because of the oty
Oops, forgot about the steals lurking in arena...
You know what? I was thinking of graveyard+eclipse... although it's even less reliable than the cremation. Nevermind then.
You're right, skeletons are cheap oty food.
I'm just thinking about a creature spammer that makes use of the mostly unfilled creature slots on the field....
Maybe an alternate shield to bone wall? 2 shields offer more protection, and sometimes bone wall just doesn't work...
Anyways, still, a nice CCbow you have right here.
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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454892#msg454892
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 06:05:00 pm »
the only shield i can think of that wont disrupt the quanta balance is spine carapace, it could solve my problems with immaterial creatures, but i dont know what to take out :S

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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454895#msg454895
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 06:13:21 pm »
the only shield i can think of that wont disrupt the quanta balance is spine carapace, it could solve my problems with immaterial creatures, but i dont know what to take out :S
Spine might not be that good, CC shields are meant to be used with healing (none in this deck).
I would suggest -arctic octopus, +permafrost. Permafrost essentially "tries" to freeze every creature  ;D
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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454898#msg454898
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 06:15:33 pm »
that could work, but it would suck if it was stolen, freezing my own creatures, thats why i love bonewall its very PC resistant and the AI is foolish enough to spend PC on it

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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454901#msg454901
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 06:21:24 pm »
that could work, but it would suck if it was stolen, freezing my own creatures, thats why i love bonewall its very PC resistant and the AI is foolish enough to spend PC on it
Forgot about the steals again... I always put more focus in CC than in PC while considering decks. Silly me.
Well, a spare bone wall might do... bone walls are fragile and can be easily broken by creature spam decks. Even oty can't keep up occasionally.
Or maybe a Jade shield? That way creature spammers got countered while this shield come into play protected... And it's from the same element as spine :D
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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454902#msg454902
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 06:23:32 pm »
that could work, but it would suck if it was stolen, freezing my own creatures, thats why i love bonewall its very PC resistant and the AI is foolish enough to spend PC on it
Forgot about the steals again... I always put more focus in CC than in PC while considering decks. Silly me.
Well, a spare bone wall might do... bone walls are fragile and can be easily broken by creature spam decks. Even oty can't keep up occasionally.
Or maybe a Jade shield? That way creature spammers got countered while this shield come into play protected... And it's from the same element as spine :D
jade shield  can work AND takes out one major weakness to the deck, but it would kinda kill the theme of the deck, besides, this deck works best when the opponent plays creatures like you said, its a CCbow :D... oty, maxwell demon and the rest takes care of anything and powers up my bonewall

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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454904#msg454904
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 06:27:54 pm »
that could work, but it would suck if it was stolen, freezing my own creatures, thats why i love bonewall its very PC resistant and the AI is foolish enough to spend PC on it
Forgot about the steals again... I always put more focus in CC than in PC while considering decks. Silly me.
Well, a spare bone wall might do... bone walls are fragile and can be easily broken by creature spam decks. Even oty can't keep up occasionally.
Or maybe a Jade shield? That way creature spammers got countered while this shield come into play protected... And it's from the same element as spine :D
jade shield  can work AND takes out one major weakness to the deck, but it would kinda kill the theme of the deck, besides, this deck works best when the opponent plays creatures like you said, its a CCbow :D... oty, maxwell demon and the rest takes care of anything and powers up my bonewall
It doesn't kill the theme... instead it completes it by giving time your CC cards to react against spammers until they dominated the board and you lay down bone wall for the win.
Focused CCbows needs some stall power IMO. It's important to survive until your combo goes active.
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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454907#msg454907
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 06:40:49 pm »
whait how does jade shield stops creature spammers?? jade shield only makes you immaterial against spells targeted to you and your hand, and it cannot be destroyed or stolen...

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Re: Deathbow [Bronze][Silver] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=36169.msg454915#msg454915
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 06:50:02 pm »
whait how does jade shield stops creature spammers?? jade shield only makes you immaterial against spells targeted to you and your hand, and it cannot be destroyed or stolen...
FFQ spams creatures with 3 attack (4 upgraded), Pharaoh spams creatures with 2 attack (3 upgraded). At least 50% of the damage is mitigated. Completely blocks unupped scarab spam.
As for mitosis spammers, well, they appears rarely and non-effective without SoR if the spammer is a big creature. Small mito-spams like frog spam still deals 40% less damage. Well, big mito-spammers like mito-gotp or mito-dragon is slow enough for you to set up usually.
Alternatively a counter to creature spammers is mind flayer... and it fits the deck's theme of CC too as lobo is a kind of CC
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