Da Fastest Speedbow Eva!

[jmdt]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I believe precogs are potent, I just cut them out when facing AIs like L3.

In PvP, they are solid plays, but in this particular deck, the strategy is simple- pound at lightning speed. This deck has only one weapon that is immaterial and no shield or CC. There's not much in someone's hand I need to see that is going to require me to change much in how I play this deck. Though knowing about a future Fire Storm or Plague may make me want to burrow my shreikers or hold back a monster or two, but that's about it. And to be honest, playing in PvP, one gets use to knowing when and what CC will likely be coming at you.

But I digress, this deck is sick fast and it's speed is something to be feared when fighting it. Precogs or no precogs, this deck wrecks.

I designed the deck to only require 6 quanta from each element, so there is a finite number of 'good cards' you can fit in the deck.  Obviousy the 6 supernovas are important, but the shriekers, charger, glory, and UG are the biggest hitters in the deck as well.  Precogs let you get to the supernovas and your preffered hitters faster instread of drawing weaker filler you would have added otherwise.  While monentum, or a fog shield would be nice in their place, the precogs are as much a part of the speed as anything by keeping 'watered down' cards out.

A secondary benifit of the precogs is that it cives you a good card to discard early while waiting for quanta for a supernova

[Mavyrk]

I designed the deck to only require 6 quanta from each element, so there is a finite number of 'good cards' you can fit in the deck.

It would be noted that this deck does use 7 quanta in one element (earth). Not very important, but still, stone forming the gargoyle has helped a lot when farming t50s.

[Nume]

I generally dont use stoneform on the gargoyle til I have enough earth quanta for my 2nd shrieker, unless I know the opponent is likely to cc it that turn.

[jmdt]

I designed the deck to only require 6 quanta from each element, so there is a finite number of 'good cards' you can fit in the deck.

It would be noted that this deck does use 7 quanta in one element (earth). Not very important, but still, stone forming the gargoyle has helped a lot when farming t50s.

Stone form is not necessicary to the damage output of the deck.  Most of the time I ignore it unless  I have plenty of earth quanta.

[Mavyrk]

I designed the deck to only require 6 quanta from each element, so there is a finite number of 'good cards' you can fit in the deck.

It would be noted that this deck does use 7 quanta in one element (earth). Not very important, but still, stone forming the gargoyle has helped a lot when farming t50s.

Stone form is not necessicary to the damage output of the deck.  Most of the time I gonore it unless  I have plenty of earth quanta.

Yeah, but it is nice to drop stone formed gargoyle, 6/6, and phoenix (or various combination) and have the ai fruitlessly waste rain of fires.

[jmdt]

Yeah, but it is nice to drop stone formed gargoyle, 6/6, and phoenix (or various combination) and have the ai fruitlessly waste rain of fires.

RoF's? are you using this versus T50?  If so how well does it work.

[Mavyrk]

Yeah, but it is nice to drop stone formed gargoyle, 6/6, and phoenix (or various combination) and have the ai fruitlessly waste rain of fires.

RoF's? are you using this versus T50?  If so how well does it work.

Yeah I built this to grind t50 with (because I was trying to get pulvies for ccyb)

The deck I was using was only mostly upgraded (the important ones, pretty much. had unupgraded like... two frogs, which i later switched for heals to up my EM rate, 2 graboids since upgrading only gives +2 atk, etc). The winrate versus mono life was pretty much under 10%, unless they got really lucky. Mono life just trounces all over this deck, and if it's the mono life EM version (with heals) it's impossible to win unless they don't draw any heals.

It tends to win against every rainbow except for the rainbows that include otyugh and rain of fire (they usually include things like many sundials and phase shields that only stall until they can RoF/Otyugh and shut you down).

It stomps vampire rush (unless they get a good starter), and all poison rushes that I've faced.

RoL/Hope (the speed version. dragons, RoL, Hope, and Lobo) comes down to whether or not you get unstable gas; if you do, you win automatically, if you don't you lose 50/50. Unless it's a different variant of RoL/Hope (with shards and stuff), and then you just win because they don't third turn hope you like the speed variant does.

All in all the only auto-quits this deck has is mono life. Everything else is pretty winnable (the rainbows got hairy for me depending on draws, but I usually lost by enough that it wasn't solely because it wasn't totally upgraded).

[Krahhl]

For facing T50, maybe you could try adding wings? They shut down life rush, shrieker rush, golem rush, and most other speed rainbows. The three recluses can also web any creatures, so it's basically five extra turns against any deck without control. It won't be as fast, but it'll have a higher win rate. The only auto-quit would be mono aether I think, and there are hardly any of those.

[jmdt]

For facing T50, maybe you could try adding wings? They shut down life rush, shrieker rush, golem rush, and most other speed rainbows. The three recluses can also web any creatures, so it's basically five extra turns against any deck without control. It won't be as fast, but it'll have a higher win rate. The only auto-quit would be mono aether I think, and there are hardly any of those.

Fully upped it should be able to run down a shrieker rush, a life rush and other speedbows on a semi regular basis.

I am working on a T50 EM version that will likely pack some Wings.

[hrmmm]

a really nasty deck^^

^in tryed it with entropy towers/pedulums.
its a bit faster (faster snovas), but i guess more unstable.
the quanta spread of the creatures is that nice that you can run it only powered with snovas.

[Nume]

I finally tested 50 games on my latest variation of the deck:

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6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 745 77g 77g 7ae 7ae 7ds 7ds 7gm 7k1 7n6 7q5 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7tf 80gThe stats:
Games: 50
Wins: 47
Losses: 3 (All 3 losses were simply games where I started with 0 pendelums. With this deck, it is crucial to start with them and imo its worth losing 10 points to just quit immediately if you start with none. I have tried it with 5 pendelums rather than 4, but didnt seem to help much, and drawing them after first turn is basically entirely useless.)
Average time per win: 74.2 Seconds
Average clicks per win: 18.9
Average turns per win: 5.38

[Cancerplus]

I finally tested 50 games on my latest variation of the deck:

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6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 713 745 77g 77g 7ae 7ae 7ds 7ds 7gm 7k1 7n6 7q5 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7tf 80gThe stats:
Games: 50
Wins: 47
Losses: 3 (All 3 losses were simply games where I started with 0 pendelums. With this deck, it is crucial to start with them and imo its worth losing 10 points to just quit immediately if you start with none. I have tried it with 5 pendelums rather than 4, but didnt seem to help much, and drawing them after first turn is basically entirely useless.)
Average time per win: 74.2 Seconds
Average clicks per win: 18.9
Average turns per win: 5.38

This thing is stupidly fast I hate it!

But still amazing idea... +1 karma, I think you may have reinvented the speedbow.