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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285035#msg285035
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 11:19:59 pm »
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This deck is a hundred times better than Shakars. I gain in score with it. The winrate is insane. Whereas Shakars is haphazard in what you draw this deck just burns through the deck until you get what you need and you win without luck.
Morte Incarnate and Dark Matter is hard due to bonesheild and BH. (but ive killed morte once)
akebono and gravitron and gemini are hard but not with god starts or their slow opening after all you can win in only 9 turns.

All the rest is quite simple really. The abuse of Cloak have to be rectified soon, its basically a fulltime CC and PC that is indestructible since the Ai wont touch it. This deck beats all the cashcow FGs (dg decay octane osiris lionheart paradox etc) with EASE and Eternal often.
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285080#msg285080
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 12:59:14 am »
I just beat rainbow, I think thats the first time I've ever beaten it.

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285275#msg285275
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 06:18:18 am »
Okay, Rasta's version looks boss. Better than when I tried this idea. Definitely gonna try this out.
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285290#msg285290
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 06:55:49 am »
i prefer a sundial instead of the 3rd hourglass but everything is the same as rasta (and noobiecakes)
and 3shield/4cloak combo is imba when you're burning through your deck like a madmen
i doubt cloak will get nerfed after just getting a facelift that made this possible but no doubt zanz will tweak the AI to prioritize cloak in future patch if this kind of deck is going to be popular and believe me, it will
this is the new face of rush style anti-FG deck

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285313#msg285313
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 08:42:30 am »
In fact this deck worked in 1.26 already. In my opinion Cloak is imba now - against the AI at least. Which is part of the reason why I posted this deck (idea).

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285341#msg285341
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 10:07:00 am »
i prefer a sundial instead of the 3rd hourglass but everything is the same as rasta (and noobiecakes)
and 3shield/4cloak combo is imba when you're burning through your deck like a madmen
i doubt cloak will get nerfed after just getting a facelift that made this possible but no doubt zanz will tweak the AI to prioritize cloak in future patch if this kind of deck is going to be popular and believe me, it will
this is the new face of rush style anti-FG deck

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this deck is the best

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285352#msg285352
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 10:43:51 am »
Yikes.  This definitely does work.

Once the AI is tweaked to target cloaks it'll still work beautifully against seism and any of the no-PC gods.  Dunno if the win rate will be better than Shakars or a top-notch ROL/fractal by that point.

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285354#msg285354
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 10:45:33 am »
I think when cloak gets balanced the deck will still be a favorite. It's not so much that the AI neglects cloak, but the feeling of having dragons with 20+ damage delivering a finishing blow in 10 turns.

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285366#msg285366
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 11:50:20 am »
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This deck is a hundred times better than Shakars. I gain in score with it. The winrate is insane. Whereas Shakars is haphazard in what you draw this deck just burns through the deck until you get what you need and you win without luck.
Morte Incarnate and Dark Matter is hard due to bonesheild and BH. (but ive killed morte once)
akebono and gravitron and gemini are hard but not with god starts or their slow opening after all you can win in only 9 turns.

All the rest is quite simple really. The abuse of Cloak have to be rectified soon, its basically a fulltime CC and PC that is indestructible since the Ai wont touch it. This deck beats all the cashcow FGs (dg decay octane osiris lionheart paradox etc) with EASE and Eternal often.
im gonna try this.
but i'd take a :time mark (i dont see much problems with getting these 2 entropy for the snovas).
and i think i check out, if a chimera is possible in here.

edit: anoter version im testing a little bit, inspired by EvaRia's Dragon-Bow Speed AI5 EM (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10980.0.html):
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285388#msg285388
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 01:59:54 pm »
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Okay, Rasta's version looks boss. Better than when I tried this idea. Definitely gonna try this out.


Using almost the exact same deck (+1HG, -1 Miracle, +1 Snova, -1 QT, +1 Ivory, -1 Amethyst, fully upped) I just defeated, in a row: Paradox, Lionheart and Ferox. I know 3 games is not much, but this deck has the strengths of mono-Aether and half it's weaknesses. I LOVE it.
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285411#msg285411
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 02:41:11 pm »
Nope, it proves I don't give a damn about who did what. Never have, never will.
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg285428#msg285428
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 03:08:21 pm »
I like the deck idea. Great work.
I would add some sundials.
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