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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg287518#msg287518
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2011, 12:55:48 pm »
after preliminary tests to decide which version I should use, I settled on Rastafla's 30 cards variant: anything more and your chances of winning seem to decrease drastically, as the deck is very prone to bad draws and very fragile even with a correct starting hand. you really need snovae and one hourglass early.

then I played 50 games against FG, without ditching any.

1   divine glory   W         
2   paradox   W         
3   dark matter   L         black holed
4   jezebel   W         
5   hecate   L         no shield
6   chaos lord   L         destroyed/stole hourglasses
7   octane   L         no cloak
8   ferox   L         too much healing
9   miracle   W         
10   obliterator   L         no hourglass, no shield
11   eternal phoenix   L         no 2nd cloak
12   elidnis   W         
13   chaos lord   L         hourglass stolen
14   dark matter   L         momentum
15   miracle   W         
16   incarnate   W         
17   elidnis   W         
18   morte   L         no shield + virus
19   incarnate   L         no 2nd shield + virus
20   elidnis   W         
21   destiny   W         
22   chaos lord   W         
23   gemini   L         momentum
24   divine glory   W         
25   dark matter   L         momentum
26   hecate   L         no 2nd shield
27   octane   L         late shield + fireball
28   seism   W         
29   hermes   L         no shield
30   dream catcher   L         black holed
31   miracle   W         
32   akebono   L         momentum (chimera)
33   miracle   W         
34   neptune   W         
35   dark matter   L         black holed
36   miracle   W         
37   eternal phoenix   L         firelance killed the cloak???
38   lionheart   W         
39   gemini   L         momentum
40   octane   W         
41   dream catcher   L         black holed
42   lionheart   W         
43   obliterator   W         
44   serket   L         no 2nd shield
45   akebono   L         momentum
46   dark matter   L         black holed
47   scorpio   L         poison
48   dream catcher   W         
49   paradox   L         no 2nd shield
50   dark matter   L         momentum

22 wins, 28 defeats. didn't take notes of ttw, but it's usually around 10.

as you can see, the main threats are FG using momentum, the rest is winnable.

EDIT: time to move on, 1.271 is live.

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg288762#msg288762
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2011, 12:44:31 pm »
y like this deck, is funny to play and whit good starting is amesom
y take 1 miracle more sometime helps  :))
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289047#msg289047
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2011, 08:29:49 pm »
This deck idea is done, and it's time to lock it. AI, if given any form of permanent control, will target Clock. But Cloaked Dragon Rush.
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289052#msg289052
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2011, 08:32:32 pm »
This still kind of works, to avoid damage and CC. Only the permanent control aspect is an issue (Even then, it costs a PC spell to remove cloak). Is that really enough to call the deck total scrap and lock it?

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289092#msg289092
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2011, 09:02:30 pm »
This still kind of works, to avoid damage and CC. Only the permanent control aspect is an issue (Even then, it costs a PC spell to remove cloak). Is that really enough to call the deck total scrap and lock it?
I don't want to get into an argument here, but FYI, I never called it a scrap nor did I say it was bad. The whole point of this deck is Clocking your creatures while Phasing out, allowing your dragons to do damage. But now that the Cloak advantage is gone, the deck is significantly weakened. There are better decks out there like CCYB and Shakkars. You can still use it if you want, but that's just my  :electrum about this deck.

The other Cloak protection deck makers are smart enough to lock it already, to prevent people from complaining if the deck fails to work because of the AI change.
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289099#msg289099
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2011, 09:10:35 pm »
well, my cloaked FG deck is basically dead, u might as well run a mono aether

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289147#msg289147
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2011, 10:27:32 pm »
Yeah we had fun while it lasted. This deck is now dead to me, no point in ever using it again, those who like to gamble should go back to Shakars, for me its back to CCWB.

The abuse of Cloak have to be rectified soon, its basically a fulltime CC and PC that is indestructible since the Ai wont touch it. This deck beats all the cashcow FGs (dg decay octane osiris lionheart paradox etc) with EASE and Eternal often.
Now it only beats Osiris Lionheart and Paradox with ease. Decay Octane with trouble and DG + Eternal not at all.
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289178#msg289178
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2011, 11:33:33 pm »
me to CCWB, but is was fun the CDR  ;)

Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289193#msg289193
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2011, 12:13:36 am »
I think a Golden or Time nymph would be better instead of the Hourglasses....

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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289196#msg289196
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2011, 12:16:22 am »
I think a Golden or Time nymph would be better instead of the Hourglasses....
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289198#msg289198
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I think a Golden or Time nymph would be better instead of the Hourglasses....
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Re: Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22364.msg289218#msg289218
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2011, 12:56:34 am »
I think a Golden or Time nymph would be better instead of the Hourglasses....
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No, the upgraded form is Golden Nymph :)
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