Cloaked dragon rush (against FGs)

[Rastafla]

I like the deck idea. Great work.
I would add some sundials.

I tested with Miracle, only two Electrum Hourglasses, Sundial, Amethyst dragon, and liked neither one. (adding supernova goes without thinking)

2 Electrum hourglasses is simply too little. You need one early and getting that one within the first 10-12 cards is greatly improved by a third one. Also is for some reason you happen to not get what you want or need a second one will show up and you will have lots of time to be able to run both of them. Ive never lost a single game where ive drawn a second one.

No need for Miracle due to the control already present Cloak and Phase. You would rarely have 12 light, if you already had that you should conceivably already be able to play all dragons and have the win so no. 4 cloakcs means 12 turns of imunity with hourglass in play thats 24 cards drawn in theory ie your whole game is protected. In practice you usually start +/-3 turns from 18 cards left. Phase sheilds follow the same principle in theory 18 cards are drawns safely behind those with hourglass in play.

Sundial, screws up the drawing of towers and vs PC heavy FGs the loss of a starting Q towers and getting sundials is heavy.

Amethyst dragon, your entropy is used on supernovas and even if they pay for themselves somehow entropy supply is often low. Many wins are enabled by getting a dragon out early and it that would mean depleting entropy so you wouldn't be able to play supernovas that might show up to deploy any combos later, i simply wont take that risk.

[Newbiecake]

-1 Hourglass, +1 Sundial, you're cool.

I take what I said back. I was just having a very unlucky streak with it like TNG did. Let's hope Zanz take his time to tweak the AI so we can grind with this for a bit longer.

Edit: Rasta, I don't know if its just me but I've had games where my initial hand had all three hourglasses drawn. >.>

[Rastafla]

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Okay, Rasta's version looks boss. Better than when I tried this idea. Definitely gonna try this out.

Using almost the exact same deck (+1HG, -1 Miracle, +1 Snova, -1 QT, +1 Ivory, -1 Amethyst, fully upped) I just defeated, in a row: Paradox, Lionheart and Ferox. I know 3 games is not much, but this deck has the strengths of mono-Aether and half it's weaknesses. I LOVE it.

And this proves picture bias (correlated with Art bias in card ideas)

Hah! I didnt even read that. =)
I looked at every picture then tested and drew some conclusions, evidently we think alike.
The first thing i did was -1 QT and +1 supernova without even thinking. I've never had a deck where 5 supernovas is better than 6.

I like this deck since its actually a Rushed Stall/Control if that makes sense to you. So in essence its the perfect deck vs the FGs.

[omegareaper7]

Pretty sure its just the RNG hating on me more, but this deck has failed for me, though it did beat Hermes.

[gourgou]

Guys i am using rasta's version and its veeeeery cool.Pretty fast and effective for false gods.
I am skipping poison using gods everyone else is playable and outcome of games is pretty fast,
like rol/hope decks. Also pretty effective for ai3 , top50 and half bloods as well. ALL in ONE with this deck.

P.S. Not exacttly rasta's cause cloacks and all dragons are unupgraded! ! !
GREAT JOB TOBI thanks a ton!!!

[Hodari]

trying this deck out now, but not much luck so far(eternal phoenix 3 times in a row and not drawing phase shields ftl)

[Plantifant]

I still think CCYB is better, beacause you need to get the aether mana here, and thats pretty hard with qtowers.
NOTE: Octane's Gasses destroy your cloakes... don't know how.

[pikachufan2164]

I still think CCYB is better, beacause you need to get the aether mana here, and thats pretty hard with qtowers.
NOTE: Octane's Gasses destroy your cloakes... don't know how.

In terms of win rate, there are better decks out there, but the win speed is one of the faster ones out there.

Gas gets past Cloak since it damages the entire field. Likewise, Plague and Retrovirus' ability go through.

[CarniExtraordinaire]

I am having great success with this deck and its fun. I woudl advise people to give it a try.

[Rastafla]

Against any FGs with Fire Storm, dont drop more than 1 dragon because if you have 2 or more in play, it will cast firestorm and break your chain of cloaks and as those FGs also have explodes you can kiss your hourglass(es) and pulvy goodbye. This rule can be broken if the FG has lets say 2 cards in hand, then i may drop 2 dragons to draw the (possible) RoF and then play another cloak and the rest of the dragons to get in a better position.
Its not commong for FGs to RoF twice in such a  shortgame.

Mostly you will only deploy 1 hourglass until youre close to the end, or getting there I drop a second hourglass if i have 3 QT and 6 time and have already used the first hourglass this round.

Ive found that vs certain gods you have to start chaining shields at certain times, hecate is at 40ish+ hp left, by the time you win you will have 1-15 hp left due to poison and raged dolls. Osiris is the same, the 2-4 momentumed creatures he gets can kill you in 1 or 2 turns if you go any lower that 40ish+. Fire Queen 25ish if you want to survive at least 1 firebolt etc. Serket changes based on your poison count. Whenever i have 6 turns of lasting through the poison alone i chain shields here its usually +55ish hp. All the FGs are in this way.

Several times I've tricked Gemini into TUing my dragons instead of his own momentumed Recluse which would allow him to win. Nonedragon is the bets one at this though its is possible that he momentums one dragon afterwards but that (12ish dmg) is still better than say 5 x 8dmg from recluses which cant be stoped, it buys you turns to draw and dump them all for one swift win.

Fastest win is 8 turns for me and the usual win is at 12-14 turns and by this time you will be down to 0-10 cards. What drives the deck is supernovas draw 4 or 5 and you have won basically, if you are forced to discard, pick a cloak or a hourglass, that usually the best choice.

This is just a small part of the things you need to do.

Gained 15 cards today under a few hours with this deck. Its superb.

[korpral]

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This deck is a hundred times better than Shakars. I gain in score with it. The winrate is insane. Whereas Shakars is haphazard in what you draw this deck just burns through the deck until you get what you need and you win without luck.
Morte Incarnate and Dark Matter is hard due to bonesheild and BH. (but ive killed morte once)
akebono and gravitron and gemini are hard but not with god starts or their slow opening after all you can win in only 9 turns.

All the rest is quite simple really. The abuse of Cloak have to be rectified soon, its basically a fulltime CC and PC that is indestructible since the Ai wont touch it. This deck beats all the cashcow FGs (dg decay octane osiris lionheart paradox etc) with EASE and Eternal often.

Ive been trying this deck. It wouldnt work for me on FG's due to completely crap draws, but runs over the HB's lol.. I am running it unupped with the exception of the 6x Supernova's, the dragons, and the hourglasses. I also added a little to make it run a bit smoother:

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[TobiMcNamobi]

Yeah, good point. For the AI5 I use a variation of that one, too. But then I try to get EM, so I added Miracle and Heal

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You nearly always win and nearly always with EM. If I'm tired of losing against the FG (be it luck or bad skill) I bully the Halfbloods with this one 

BTW for the FG I also stick to Rastas version now. First I played with five Supernovas only because I feared that I would have to discard too often, but in fact even with six of those this happens rather rarely. Against some gods (e.g. with poison) it is better to have Miracle instead of one of the hourglasses. But all in all it is more fun to speed draw down to five cards and then kill fast.

/edit: I will fix both decks in the thread start and in this post soon ...
/edit: updated