Post by: Shantu on August 18, 2011, 09:17:15 am
As you can see, the base of the deck is the same, and it's surprisingly very stable. This is what you need to do to kill your opponent, in this order:
2x Trebuchets
---1 turn later---
1x Schrödinger's cat
3x Basilisk Bloods (cat goes to 63hp -> 39 damage)
1x Congeal (+50% damage -> 58 damage)
1x Twin Universe
THROW!
Except for the OTK combo itself, the deck plays just like the draw.gon deck linked above, so check that if you need strategy tips.
The combo is very vulnerable to Permanent Control: if your Trebuchets are gone, you lost. This can be fixed by adding a Cloak or Protect Artifacts, but they may clog your hand so I decided not to bother with them.
The wonderful thing in the deck is that you don't need to have everything upgraded. The only things that you need are Supernovas, Hourglasses and Time Towers which are used by many farming decks, like Instosis. As for the others, only the Trebuchets make a difference. If you have the Catapults upgraded you need 1 less supernova for your combo (4 instead of 5). Upgraded cat does only 1 more damage than unupgraded with 3x BB and Congeal (63hp: 58 damage, 61 hp: 57 damage), so you don't need to upgrade them either; useful only in neutralizing the effect of 1 Shard of Divinity. Upgrading everything else just means less vulnerability to denial.
That's all I can think of right now.
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd219680/superiority.png)
Post by: Calindu on August 18, 2011, 09:26:58 am
Anyway,funny deck. :)
Post by: Xenocidius on August 18, 2011, 09:47:16 am
Interesting deck concept.
Post by: Malignant on August 18, 2011, 11:03:35 am
Imma just add it to my Massive Dragon OTK thread just for fun...(All credits to you.)
Post by: The_Mormegil on August 18, 2011, 12:57:10 pm
Post by: Calindu on August 18, 2011, 01:04:19 pm
Wow. Reasoning for Cat over something with more hp from an off-element? I mean, you already need 4 SNovas for the rest of the combo, might as well throw in a good creature hp-wise... Like I dunno, a Steam Machine?*Points at Voodoo doll*
The cat is just for name.
Post by: Malignant on August 18, 2011, 02:07:45 pm
Post by: Calindu on August 18, 2011, 02:08:38 pm
No accidentally playing Sundial to ruin your OTK. A new problem though, if your catapult is the last card.Stop drawing and make an 2TK.
Post by: Pineapple on August 18, 2011, 02:19:05 pm
Post by: Calindu on August 18, 2011, 02:33:20 pm
Add an RT if you're afraid of pult being your last card.What to RT? ???
Post by: Bonestorm on August 18, 2011, 02:41:19 pm
Wow. Reasoning for Cat over something with more hp from an off-element? I mean, you already need 4 SNovas for the rest of the combo, might as well throw in a good creature hp-wise... Like I dunno, a Steam Machine?Reason because it's a cat?! I use Leaf Dragon, now theres a real dragon OTK! :D
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on August 18, 2011, 02:43:57 pm
Post by: Pineapple on August 18, 2011, 04:02:37 pm
Obviously, the only creature in the deck. Play the pult you just drew, play and rewind the creature to increase your deck size from 0 to 1, and next turn draw it, buff it, and use the pults.Add an RT if you're afraid of pult being your last card.What to RT? ???
Post by: Calindu on August 18, 2011, 04:10:20 pm
Oh,right,thinking about to RT the PU'ed cat.Obviously, the only creature in the deck. Play the pult you just drew, play and rewind the creature to increase your deck size from 0 to 1, and next turn draw it, buff it, and use the pults.Add an RT if you're afraid of pult being your last card.What to RT? ???
Post by: Onizuka on August 18, 2011, 04:14:55 pm
Post by: kirchj33 on August 18, 2011, 04:47:51 pm
Post by: Shantu on August 18, 2011, 04:50:43 pm
So this was what you were talking about.Yes. I would have loved to use it against you, but the dragon deck felt safer.
Please note this deck wasn't meant for anything serious, just a pun with Catapult. It just happens to actually work. :) Problem with adding more cards (Rewind or PAs) is that you need 6 card spaces in your hand for the Cat/BBs/Freeze/PU combo. You will also have usually 1-2 sundials/hourglasses in your hand, so drawing more cards often leads to playing excess sundials. So if you have other cards that need a condition to be played (Rewind: catapult as last card, PA: catapult drawn and played, etc) they will often clog your hand, hindering your card drawing ability.
Post by: Xenocidius on September 10, 2011, 09:34:52 am
Post by: rosutosefi on September 10, 2011, 10:15:57 am
Post by: Shantu on September 10, 2011, 10:44:58 am
Post by: bioglond on September 17, 2011, 03:54:12 pm
Use your opponent's creature!
Post by: omegareaper7 on September 17, 2011, 04:09:00 pm
+1 twin universe, -1 catSo you want the win rate to drop? Funny.
Use your opponent's creature!
Post by: kirchj33 on September 17, 2011, 04:19:21 pm
+1 twin universe, -1 catUsing 2 twin universes means you will require every last drop of :aether quanta to be used. One of OTK decks' biggest enemies is already denial, and this change only makes the deck more susceptible to disruption. Not to mention, it now creates an autoloss situation against any creatureless decks. This deck is meant to troll your opponent, not yourself!
Use your opponent's creature!
Post by: Djhopper :) on September 17, 2011, 04:38:16 pm
Post by: Shantu on September 17, 2011, 04:54:46 pm
Use silence to stop catupult destruction?That won't save you from Pulverizer or Butterfly Effect, although those are less used in PvP than their faster brothers.
Post by: Djhopper :) on September 17, 2011, 06:01:56 pm
I reckon two deflags is more common than BE or pulvy...Use silence to stop catupult destruction?That won't save you from Pulverizer or Butterfly Effect, although those are less used in PvP than their faster brothers.
Post by: Sevs on October 07, 2011, 05:00:09 am
Post by: Chapuz on October 07, 2011, 10:45:54 am
With the catapult buff, would there be a different combo that might work better?What's the catapuls buff?
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on October 07, 2011, 07:28:18 pm
Catapults get a 50% bonus for frozen targets
Post by: loadquo on October 08, 2011, 01:20:44 am