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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120140#msg1120140
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2014, 01:05:37 am »
It took you 3 years to finally reveal this piece of work? And you just started to relive in the glory days to try it out on arena?

Ok, so first off, I have not played this deck for 3 years. Hell I have only been playing for 2.5 years and really only playing this deck for the last 6 months or so.

I did NOT post this deck (nor any others I've made) to stroke my ego in any way. There was a discussion I had with another player in chat about 500hp decks and they asked me what I was using. I gave them the code and a few days later, my brother told me that some others were talking about my deck and had asked him for the code but he kindly referred them to me as he was unsure if I would want him giving it out.

Instead of replying to all of the requests, I decided to make a post about it instead. If you look at the OP you can see I was NOT bragging about it in any way, "This deck is nothing really new or spectacular but it does work with some degree of success."

I do not usually keep stats on anything more than my daily progress and really had no intention of doing so for this deck but in this case, the questions do have my curiosity up and I'll try.

I don't think I came off in a condescending way when I asked you about stats on your deck, if I did it was not my intention. You however seem to have intended anything but a friendly inquisitiveness that I would expect from someone who a very dear friend had previously spoken well of. I'm sure after seeing your last post, they will have a different opinion of you.

Now, if you would kindly be CONSTRUCTIVE in your comments or refrain from posting in my threads, I would appreciate it.

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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120301#msg1120301
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2014, 10:49:29 pm »
I will add to this as I go, but I thought I'd post last nights numbers.

Avg Op HP: 167.78
Games Played: 14
Wins: 6  (42.8%)
Losses: 8
Avg TTW: 47.83
Avg TTL: 11.25
500hp Games: 4 (another was at 457 & a 1hp deck at 131)
EM's: 6
Electrum Gain: 3726
Score Gain: 1783
Cards from Spins: 2 Rares

This was a bit higher than avg night in my opinion, but like I said, I'll add to these numbers.

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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120326#msg1120326
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2014, 02:22:03 am »
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It took you 3 years to finally reveal this piece of work? And you just started to relive in the glory days to try it out on arena?
The "it took you 3 years to finally reveal this piece of work" was meant as a "OMG! It took you 3 years to show this magnificent piece of work?! Why didn't you show it to us earlier?! This is awesome!"
As for the "And you just started to re-live in the glory days to try it out on arena?" was meant as "and you just started replaying a deck you made 3 years ago because arena came out and you wanted to try it on arena?" (Glory days of killing people with this deck, it was to emphasize on how awesome I think your deck is.)

Im sorry that in your perspective you saw it as malicious intent, and no I didn't think of it as a negative thing when you posted on my topic, I just quoted you here as a joke, because someone else had asked for arena stats and you didn't answer so i personally found it funny so I re-asked using an exact quote from you.  ;D I thought an average turns to EM would be a great stat to find out, and I'm glad it interested you. As a person who hasn't known me very long I should have been more thorough and clearer on my intents. I don't think anyone who knows me well will think less of me though.  But thank you for telling me your brother has spoken highly of me, he's a person that has gotten to know me so his opinion matters dearly to me. Not that yours doesn't, but how can I compare a person who doesn't know me as well as a person who does? Its like comparing a summer day to a rainbow. :D XD You will find out by knowing me I love to use quotes. I took it upon myself to memorize exactly what people say because 1. I have an interest in old English, especially Shakespeare.   2. I wanted to become a lawyer for quite some time, with the back up plan of being a psychologist. 3.) I now plan on being a psychologist. (Dumped the lawyer idea :P) I look forward to seeing the stats, when I posted it, it was suppose to be constructive, not negative or degrading.
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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120340#msg1120340
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2014, 03:19:14 am »
Well, we all have our desires for what we want out of this game. Some want all the cards, some want community recognition, some want to reach Level 80, some want little fancy icons next to their name in the forum.

I myself just want to play. This is one of the few (3 maybe?) decks I have ever posted. I only did so because others wanted the code. I cared not for accolades or critique. I just didn't want to reply to the PM's that I had received for the code but thought a post would stop the PM's from coming in.

Over my tenure here, I have studied various aspects of the game. I have made posts that have been well received by the community for the depth of information that I have discovered and tried to convey as best I could. In that time I have learned so much by playing this game, how the mechanics work and how the AI does its best to play decks given to it for the Arena.

At over 950k score I think I have learned quite a bit.

Another thing I have learned is the Social Structure and the Social Graces of this Forum. Yes, many have come and gone, but there are a handful of us still around who remember the Legends and giggle at those who storm in and claim to be. *sigh
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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120389#msg1120389
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2014, 12:00:11 pm »
Well I am gonna keep this on topic from now on, but i just wanted to say *holy cow!* at this deck! XD
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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120390#msg1120390
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2014, 12:05:51 pm »
How do you think adding more shields would work? For some reason I never found myself using PC, and sometimes conflicting quanta over SoG and Carapace, so I tried -1 explosion -1 steal +2 Permafrost. I won't say it's amazing, but I rather like getting a shield earlier. I'm not exactly sure if Permafrost is a better shield to take over Carapace though; the DR is just 1 point higher and there's no killing. On the other hand I save myself when I'm quanta tight on life.

I might change it a bit and attempt to slip in a few aflatoxins to lock down the opponent better, this could probably help increase utility of Perma over Carapace. Honestly, that's probably the reason I've been using this deck so much the past days - You can easily change one or two things and that makes a difference in how you play already. Highly customizable decks for the win.
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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120679#msg1120679
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2014, 06:59:14 am »
I love this deck.  currently playing it against AI4 doing a LONG testing run & a few things are important to note.

1 - I consider your opponent "locked" when I have carapace out, with at least 20 hps in heal per turn.  some may like more but there it is for me

2 - living long enough to lock is a dance between digging into your deck, quanta management, & hp management.  you only need to have 1 hp when it gets back to you, dont play the shard if you can wait a turn and play the carapace instead.

3 - I like to early eternity to get rewinds on opponent creatures even if it doesnt change the damage it just like drawing a card.

4 - currently testing with quicksand/blackhole suite.  I get some life gain & PC, which help extend the reach on the deck.

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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120689#msg1120689
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2014, 07:35:09 am »
:) Yes! This deck is all about customization.

I'm glad to see that others are enjoying this type of deck and having success while playing it.

As some have noted, there are many strategies involved with it. An early hand loaded with Deflags and Steals can afford the player an opportunity to weaken the opponent by Q deprivation. Removing a Q source and then another card that will cause the AI to repay for the card removed thus slowing the opp down. Sometimes you can even grab a weapon and shield to your advantage. ;)
An early Eternity can lock your opp down while giving you time to set up your whole defense and stockpile all the  :earth Q you need.

Yes, the deck can be starved of Time & Life Q early on so you might balance it with other cards. I would love to see others post their mods on this deck! I have always considered this type of play a bit more to the game of Chess. Not just the avg "Run and Gun" type play that many are after in this day and age.

I played 15 games last night and got 5 wins. Here are the TTW stats on the wins:

TTW: 54
500Hp wins: 4
EM's: 5
Electrum Gain: 3384
Score Gain: 1592
Spins: 3

These were all vs Gold Arena and while I did have a bunch of not so fun games vs Mono Dark and Mono Death, the others were quite enjoyable.

Keep it coming guys and gals! Look forward to the next post of love for this type of game play!

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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120701#msg1120701
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2014, 10:29:40 am »
Just enjoyed a nice little streak in AI4... good call guys! :)

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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120827#msg1120827
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2014, 03:56:55 am »
Just enjoyed a nice little streak in AI4... good call guys! :)
After all the recent play in ai4 Ive done I knew it would do well there. I just think not getting a shield by turn 18 could really hurt vs an ai4 unorganized rush. Then the couple organized ones can throw you off a bit too.

P.S. Have you tried out nightmares? They fill the hand up and make rewinding better. Also give you HP. (And prevent the occasional bragger in pvp2 from saying "Haha! I EM'd you! You suck!" Ive only met 2 of these people before, but still.)
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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120901#msg1120901
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2014, 07:31:58 pm »
Nightmare is terrible, you are just giving them more ammo.  You want to play things that either slow them down, gain life, or are degenerate over a long game.  Those cards IMHO are:

Pulverizer - which i have played but is too much of a risk against  :darkness so it becomes dead sometimes
Blackhole - my current favorite, slows opponent and gains life, a potential of 36 heal for 3  :gravity
Jade Staff - gains 5 life per turn for 2 :life
Quicksand - slows quanta production
Silence - slows opponent to buy time but sometimes it just congregates the creatures into a few turns, which is counter to what you want in this deck, you want a low # of creatures
Explosion - PC - get rid of annoying 1-of's
Steal - PC - ibid

There are many creature examples that I don't play because of the creature LITE deck they are instant targets for all that CC.  Gravity Nymph would p0wn any long game in multiples.

my current list, I do alternate between 3 and 4 Spine Carapace, switching in/out an extra Electrum Hourglass

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Re: bripod's 500hp EM Deck mod https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53192.msg1120903#msg1120903
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2014, 07:51:46 pm »
Ehhh... I didnt think about the problem of not having a creature to nightmare. Ive never had that problem before. :/
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