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B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg253053#msg253053
« on: January 21, 2011, 02:46:55 am »
i was bored so i made this thing, i dont wanna even call it a deck
stall, stall, stall, stall, stall some more then wham bolt hit's
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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg253140#msg253140
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 03:54:07 am »
Looks fun, but needs miracles and hourglasses.

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg253232#msg253232
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 06:41:59 am »
Looks like a pretty fun deck. 

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg253233#msg253233
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 06:45:09 am »
LIES this should be L-L-L- Lances!!!!

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg253253#msg253253
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 08:06:46 am »
OPPONENT + Reflective Shield + Eternity = Ragequit and jump from a conveniently placed cliff.

Add in a reflective shield in there. Seriously.

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg253306#msg253306
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 12:00:14 pm »
Putting in a couple of Mirror Shields would help against that.

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg253310#msg253310
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 12:16:30 pm »
fun! but yeah, mirrors ftw.

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg256488#msg256488
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 09:29:59 pm »
add +2 Dissap Fields and + 4-6 hour glasses

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg256520#msg256520
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 10:17:13 pm »
To be honest, I'd take out all the Siphon Lives and Ice Lances. It'll be a cold day in hell before you have 6 of each spell in your hand.

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg256531#msg256531
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 10:31:42 pm »
To be honest, I'd take out all the Siphon Lives and Ice Lances. It'll be a cold day in hell before you have 6 of each spell in your hand.
You do not need to draw all 6 of each, using them as they draw near to discard makes them useful enough

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg256613#msg256613
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 12:03:58 am »
anyone wanna calculate how much quanta you need to win with like 8 bolts? might wanna use less towers or something.

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Re: B-B-B- Bolts!!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19962.msg256713#msg256713
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 02:14:51 am »
anyone wanna calculate how much quanta you need to win with like 8 bolts? might wanna use less towers or something.
Alright then.  Basically how I calculated this: 100/8 = 12.5; rounding up according to Bolt damage = 14/15.  To get 15 damage with Fire Lance you'd need at least 40 quanta.  With 6 Fire Lances you'd need 45 :fire.  10 HP remaining, you could use 1 of either other Bolt to kill of the opponent.  To deal 10 damage between the two you'd need to do 4 with one and 6 with the other.  So, 10 quanta for one and 20 for the other (If the remaining 2 Bolts are different).  Using this kind of reasoning you can calculate it for any scenario.

6 Fire Lances + 2 Bolts: 
45 :fire, 90 damage
10 :water and 20 :darkness, 4 damage + 6 damage = 10 damage
OR 10 :darkness and 20 :water, 4 + 6 = 10
OR 20 :darkness (with 2 Siphon Life), 4 + 6 = 10
OR 20 :water (with 2 Ice Lance). 4 + 6 = 10
5 Fire Lances + 3 Bolts: 
44 :fire, 75 damage
40 :water and 30 :darkness (2 Ice Lance), 10 + 8 + 8
OR 40 :darkness and 30 :water (2 Siphon Life), 10 + 8 + 8
OR 40 :water (3 Ice Lance), 10 + 8 + 8
OR 40 :darkness (3 Siphon Life). 10 + 8 +8
4 Fire Lances + 4 Bolts: 
43 :fire, 60 damage
43 :water (4 Ice Lance), 40 damage
OR 43 :darkness (4 Siphon Life), 40 damage
OR 42 :water and 40 :darkness (3 Ice lance), 30 damage + 10 damage
OR 42 :darkness and 40 :water (3 Siphon Life), 30 damage + 10 damage
OR 41 :water and 41 :darkness (2 of each). 20 damage + 20 damage
3 Fire Lances + 5 Bolts: 
42 :fire, 45 damage
52 :water and 41 :darkness (3 Ice Lance), 36 + 20 damage
OR 52 :darkness and 41 :water (3 Siphon Life), 36 + 20 damage
OR 52 :Water (5 Ice Lance), 56 damage
OR 52 :darkness (5 Siphon Life), 56 damage
OR 52 :darkness and 40 :water (4 Siphon Life), 46 + 10 damage
OR 52 :water and 40 :darkness (4 Ice Lance). 46 + 10 damage
2 Fire Lances + 6 Bolts: 
51 :fire, 36 damage
51 :water (6 Ice Lance), 64 damage
OR 51 :darkness (6 Siphon Life), 64 damage
OR 51 :water and 40 :darkness (5 Ice Lance), 54 + 10 damage
OR 51 :darkness and 40 :water (5 Siphon Life), 54 + 10 damage
OR 51 :water and 41 :darkness (4 Ice Lance), 44 + 20 damage
OR 51 :darkness and 41 :water (4 Siphon Life), 44 + 20 damage
OR 51 :darkness / :water and 42 :water / :darkness (3 Ice Lance/Siphon Life). 34 + 30 damage
1 Fire Lance + 7 Bolts: 
50 :fire, 18 damage
55 :water and 40 :darkness (6 Ice Lance), 72 + 10 damage
OR 54 :water and 50 :darkness (5 Ice Lance), 60 + 22 damage
OR 53 :water and 51 :darkness (4 Ice Lance), 48 + 34 damage
OR 53 :darkness and 51 :water (3 Ice Lance), 48 + 34 damage
OR 54 :darkness and 50 :water (2 Ice Lance), 60 + 22 damage
OR 55 :darkness and 40 :water (1 Ice Lance). 72 + 10 damage
8 Bolts: 
61 :water, 51 :darkness (6 Ice Lance), 76 + 24 damage
OR 61 :water, 52 :darkness (5 Ice Lance), 64 + 36 damage
OR 61 :water / :darkness and 53 :darkness / :water (4 Ice Lance/Siphon Life), 52 + 48 damage
OR 61 :darkness and 52 :water (3 Ice Lance), 64 + 36 damage
OR 61 :darkness and 51 :water (2 Ice Lance). 76 + 24 damage
Note:  Obviously, these are just the minimum quanta amounts for each situation.  This is probably the easiest quanta amount to reach for each one.  Interestingly, if you use a Fire Lance/Ice Lance/Siphon Life when you have an amount of quanta that ends in a zero, you will deal damage as if the cost for that Bolt card had not been deducted (i.e. you have 10 :fire.  You play Fire Lance and deal 4 damage even though it subtracts 1 :fire before actually dealing damage).
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