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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:19 pm »

Not entirely. There is a threshold of quanta that the AI reaches where it will no longer target your creatures but target your face instead. It's somewhere around 40 or 50.
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1. The lower your HP are, the higher are your chances to be hit in place of your creatures
2. The higher CPU quantum count is, the higher are your chances to be targeted

I thought it was roughly based on your strongest creature on the board- if he can kill a creature he'll do that, but if he'll overkill it too much he'll hit you instead.
3. Creature's HP is not taken into account to select target. The biggest threat for the AI is the creature with the highest attack.

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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:19 pm »

I just made 3/4 against Hermes on the last fights using Jmizzle's advice. It works quite well. So, my precedent bad results were maybe due to the lack of strategy. I'll tell you more later. I also did well against Rainbow 2/2. It seems to depend a lot on the starting hand.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:19 pm »

Do you really think you need 6 electrum hourglasses?
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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:19 pm »

its to ensure that he gets 1-3 early on, as with only 1 copy of his major cards, he'll need a lot of drawing (60 needs a LOT of drawing)

I at first thought that they use the highest attack, but armagio changes my theory, why would graviton use it him instead of his 4/6 (or higher) fire eater?

i thought that their creatures generate "value" the same way yours generate "threat" (just using my own terms) and it's something like hp/2+AP=value/threat?
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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:19 pm »

Hourglass is the card i want to have in my starting hand. Sometimes i get a perfect draw like 5 towers+ 2 hourglasses and it's an easy win.

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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:27 pm »

I played some games with that deck and it's got a nice win rate ( 84 % after 43 games though mostly opposing easy gods. I won 4 of 5 against Hermes, and 8 out of 9 against Gemini so those seem to be easier than your statistic shows) - but I think it may be better with two Otyughs (in combination with the firestorm good against larger creatures) and Fallen Druids (for a better chance to improve your skeletons) for a bit more permanent creature controll, you'll need that especialy against Rainbow.

Perhaps replacing an hourglass, a graveyard or a tower might work?

But in my opinion it's interesting that a deck without steal and FFQ is that strong against the gods.

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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:27 pm »

The only time I find steal useful is against incarnate, graviton, and scorpio. Maybe chaos lord if he gets out an early discord. And I hardly use my FFQ. It might make 1-3 fireflies a game and that's it, most of my damage comes from mutated skeletons.

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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:27 pm »

After some more games, i noticed that i was often short of time quanta. A possible improvement might be to use upgraded dials. The deck doesn't use light quanta for anything else and it can afford to pay 2 light Q to draw. It seems to work even better so far.

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« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:27 pm »



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Re: anti god necromancer deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1098.msg13333#msg13333
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2009, 09:23:49 am »
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It's time to give the result of this deck as the update is coming soon. I obtained a decent 72% on average against all gods after 330 games.

Detailed results:  (win/loss/EM)

INCARNATE   26/0/24   100%

This one is the easiest for most of the decks, some bad draws resulted in missing EM. Of course it's possible to lose but it should rarely happen.

CHAOS LORD   22/2/21   92%

Also very easy. He needs perfect conditions to win. Bad draw+early mutant with destroy/steal. It's possible to get away if you have enough Quanta to get rid of the dangerous creatures.

MIRACLE   28/5/28   85%

Easy. He might win sometimes if you can't draw any defensive cards and he finds a big dragon early.

GEMINI   27/6/25   83%

Easy but playing against him is tricky sometimes. If you draw pulverizer early, the job is almost done. Otherwise, His Electrocutor is a bit annoying. Usually, you have to dig deep in the deck to find the needed cards. To deal with his weapon, use TU on Anubis.

GRAVITON   24/8/23   75%

Easy. You just need 2 firestorms to clean the board, in case you don't draw oty or TU +dials.

FIREQUEEN   23/8/23   74%

Easy. you still need to draw defensive cards early enough.

SEISM   14/6/13   70%

This one is a bit annoying with the earthquakes. Once you manage to keep a few towers alive, he's not so hard.

MORTE   18/8/16   69%

Easy. Unfortunately, he sometimes draws poison very quickly. Then you need the right combo in time. Bond+Yard+Storm.

HERMES   23/15/15   61%

Hard. He makes a lot of damage quickly. Also if he has many explosions early, he can lock you completely. You need the wall against him. TU is strong golem. It's also more difficult to get EM because you have to win quickly. His lances become dangerous when he has a lot of Quanta.

RAINBOW   16/15/16   52%

Hard. It's basically a coin flip against him. You have a good draw and win or he crushes you real fast.

SCORPIO   12/22/8   35%

Hard. His poison comes so fast that it's difficult to draw the combo in time. Bond+Yard+Storm. Many games i lost were close though.

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Re: anti god necromancer deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1098.msg13343#msg13343
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2009, 02:37:43 pm »
I was wondering when you were going to be releasing these stats didia, lol.  Looks good.  I find it interesting which match-ups are better or worse with the big time decks vs the smaller entropy decks.  But you forgot to warn people about how your games might've been affected by you playing while sipping on your wine ;)

 

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