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Anti-FG/HB Rainbow "Flex" (with 1 or 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167445#msg167445
« on: September 29, 2010, 07:47:59 pm »
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This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result may work very differently now.  Use at your own risk.

Anti-FG "Flex" Slim version (34 Cards)
Version 1.1- uses Eternity to help with limited anti-deck out.
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Anti-HB "Flex" 40-card deck:
Version 1.1- Tweaked for more consistency and EMs
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This is a work in progress, but I wanted to create a maximally flexible deck that had chance to beat all FGs.  The core of the deck is creature control with a Quintessenced Otyugh and direct damage with a Quintessenced Air Nymph.  However, once I included Mindgate, the deck became much more flexible when using the FGs' own cards against them and my excess quanta.

I've tried several variations with the one-off cards like Improved Antimatter, Aflatoxin, Fire Storm, and Improved Steal; these cards are the ones that fit my playstyle. 

Deck Components:
Creature Control- Elite Otyugh, Air Nymphs, Fire Storm, Aflatoxin, Improved Antimatter
Permanent Control- Pulverizer
Shields- Permafrost, Improved Dusk, Mirror Shield, Bone Wall
Healing- Shards of Gratitude, Purify
"Moar Drawz"- Electrum Hourglasses, Mindgates

Things to watch out for:
(1) Reflective shields- need to rely on Elite Otyugh or Mindgate'd creatures to do damage
(2) Manage Aether quanta carefully- priority is for Quintessenced Otyugh or Quintessenced Air Nymph (one of each)

I've played about 50 games or so but did not keep any statistics until I get comfortable with a "final" version, but it's been fun to see what Mindgate turns up.

I welcome comments.  Thanks for looking.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 01:38:15 am by willng3 »

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167465#msg167465
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 08:16:39 pm »
Looks like a solid rainbow. Personally, I would probably try to put a Heal in there, to increase chances of EM (No idea, what to take out for it. Maybe Improved Dusk or Steal)


Sadly none of my 8 Nymphs i an Air Nymph, so I can't test it yet, except for trainer. But as soon as I get two, I'll give this a try ^^ (Till then, Elements will be Version 1.6 or so..)

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167496#msg167496
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 08:58:33 pm »
Do you get enough quanta for three mindgates? And why are there only five supernovas?

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167515#msg167515
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 09:32:24 pm »
Interesting concept. This deck looks very Air and Aether heavy. My FG Rainbow has a single Air Nymph, and it's almost impossible to generate three Air quanta each turn, especially with Supernovae. Killing with Air Nymphs is really tough if you don't have five-ish Towers out. I can see Mindgate helping with that problem, but it's just too expensive to use often.

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167517#msg167517
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 09:39:20 pm »
Do you get enough quanta for three mindgates? And why are there only five supernovas?
I don't try to establish 3 Mindgates, I have 3 Mindgates to increase my chances of getting one early.

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167518#msg167518
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 09:40:12 pm »
Interesting concept. This deck looks very Air and Aether heavy. My FG Rainbow has a single Air Nymph, and it's almost impossible to generate three Air quanta each turn, especially with Supernovae. Killing with Air Nymphs is really tough if you don't have five-ish Towers out. I can see Mindgate helping with that problem, but it's just too expensive to use often.
It can be tricky to use the Air Nymphs, but I am only looking to get 1 Air Nymph out and then generate Unstable Gas.  Mindgate does help out with generating creatures for increased damage, but don't forget the Quintessenced Elite Otyugh + Pulverizer.

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167526#msg167526
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 09:53:08 pm »
Looks like a solid rainbow. Personally, I would probably try to put a Heal in there, to increase chances of EM (No idea, what to take out for it. Maybe Improved Dusk or Steal)


Sadly none of my 8 Nymphs i an Air Nymph, so I can't test it yet, except for trainer. But as soon as I get two, I'll give this a try ^^ (Till then, Elements will be Version 1.6 or so..)
Actually, if you setup combo of Bone Wall + Firestorm + Unstable Gas + Quintessenced Otyugh near the end-game, you can EM pretty well.  However, Improved Heal would make it easier.  I might switch out Improved Steal for it; I wouldn't switch out Improved Dusk -- this deck is relatively reliant on Shields.

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167716#msg167716
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 03:19:35 am »
Hm I kinda like it. I may try it with lava destroyers in place of the nymphs, since I dont have any, but yeah. Though it would look pretty similar to ccyb in that case :P. Still has a few variances though so could be interesting.

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167717#msg167717
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 03:23:56 am »
Wow, triple posting. :o

But lava destroyers would work better in some situations, for example when the opponent has a mirror shield.

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167834#msg167834
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 12:52:19 pm »
Hm I kinda like it. I may try it with lava destroyers in place of the nymphs, since I dont have any, but yeah. Though it would look pretty similar to ccyb in that case :P. Still has a few variances though so could be interesting.
If you switched out the Nymphs for Lava Destroyers, I would see this deck (conceptually) as a fusion of Puppychow's Unoriginal Rainbow, and his "Haz Moar Draws" deck, and Amilir's CCYB deck.  I might have to try out Lava Destroyers, just to see how that variant would work, but anything with bone walls could be a problem (you might have to add Fractal into this deck).

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg167847#msg167847
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 01:33:27 pm »
Lucky for me, two of my four nymphs are air, so I'll give this deck a shot and post my comments later.

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Re: Anti-HB/FG Rainbow Flex (with 2 Air Nymphs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13294.msg168481#msg168481
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2010, 02:26:46 pm »

I run a deck very similar to CCYB but with 2 air nymphs.   If you only run nymphs, several gods that are typically classified as easy like Miracle and Fire Queen become autoquit.

Air nymphs and lava destroyers compliment each other well because the shields that block one are easily penetrated by the other. 

The air nymphs also increase EM % since they allow you to end or not end the game once you are setup.   


 

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