Anti-FG deck / Qohelet style

[Qohelet]

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(Supernovas don't fit so well to this deck and one more SoG and 2 more quantum towers are overall better option)

Played few games with this one. Deck is mostly inspired by anti-critter-Jangoo-poison idea, but I made changes. At this point I can't tell how effective this one is, but against Octane/Decay this should work well. Octane is quite easy if you can play Jade shield early. Just antimatter two flying Eagle Eye's and use alfatoxin on FG's side.

Hints for newbies:

Use Unstoppable for Lava Destroyer (faster game if you can do that) or Otyugh (painfull long game) - and quint them. One photon for Butterfly Effect or... play Alfatoxin on your side for better healing and use BE'd cell - quint it. Other photon is just for recycling, rewind, back, rewind, back... until FG deck out or die. Protect Bond, Shield and Eternity. Against Octane you need only one protect artifact.

And some evidence:

Osiris:

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Octane (as you can see, I used butterfly effect to otyugh, so fire wall don't hurt...):

(http://www.screenshotdumpster.com/)

Later Lava Destroyer beated crap out from poor Octane :/

EDIT: Added 2 pics
EDIT2: Deck updated

[binde22]

i understand 2 eternities but 2 photons why? if there there for no deck outs then  u dont even need them till u run out of cards therefore even if it is the last card and if it is thats probably best then u are still going to have eternity plus photon

now i see its for toxin

[RedRevive]

i understand 2 eternities but 2 photons why? if there there for no deck outs then  u dont even need them till u run out of cards therefore even if it is the last card and if it is thats probably best then u are still going to have eternity plus photon

now i see its for toxin

Not only is it for toxin, but it guarantees that his deck doesn't get jaded (where you draw eternity as your very last card, and lose because you have no way of casting rewind before you hit -1 cards).  Sometimes having eternity faster can also be pretty clutch (having two here) against gods like gemini, where rewinding his momentum dragons helps you live longer and push back his gravity quanta.

[jmizzle7]

This deck looks pretty good. I'll test it and get back with some results.

[yaladilae]

First off, do you really need 3 PA? I feel 2 is enough...

If you only keep 2 eternity mostly for deck out, why not use 1 eternity + 1 rewind? Cheaper cost overll that way

The 2 photons, I understand you want 1 for alfatoxin / eternity

But the other, it is something with only 1 hp, and casting butterfly on it seems a unsafe, as if the firewall is out before your butterfly photon, you are screwed (summoning sickness)
Prehaps you can use it on an oty, but you loose the abliity of eating (e.g hermes)

I would suggest running 1 photon (for eternity) and something else (e.g oty/pest) for butterfly

[Arondight]

Personally, I use two Otyugh and  one Butterfly Effect most of the time. I Butterfly Effect the first or second Otyugh as I see fit, usually its the second. But, in actuality, I use it on Elite Skeletons almost all the time when the FG I'm challenging doesn't have any annoying shields.

I use Aflatoxin when I kill FGs, too, sometimes. As you can use it on your side and the opponent's side as you see fit. 


By the way, you don't need two Eternities. When I don't want to lose by running out of cards, I use one Rewind and one Eternity. Because once you've drawn the Eternity, you can use the Rewind offensively. But, if not, save it until the last card.

[Qohelet]

First off, do you really need 3 PA? I feel 2 is enough...

Yep. I need 3 of them for several reasons. Sometimes you need PA early (ex. against seism). Vs. Octane I need only 1 PA, but I like to PA shield, eternity and depending current situation hourglass, shard or bond.

If you only keep 2 eternity mostly for deck out, why not use 1 eternity + 1 rewind? Cheaper cost overll that way

No, it's not only for deck out. Eternity is far more usefull when playing with Time -mark. (I have 30 card anti-fg deck where I play rewind + eternity, but it's with entropy mark. 30 card version don't use antimatter.. maybe I post it later - it's less effective)

The 2 photons, I understand you want 1 for alfatoxin / eternity

I play alfatoxin where it gives more help. Usually to FG's side, so I may need both photons - one for BE and one for avoid deck out.

But the other, it is something with only 1 hp, and casting butterfly on it seems a unsafe, as if the firewall is out before your butterfly photon, you are screwed (summoning sickness)

I try to adapt as much as possible Photon's good things: alfatoxin kills it instantly and is free to play.

Prehaps you can use it on an oty, but you loose the abliity of eating (e.g hermes)

That's true and Hermes can be 'ass' x) Maybe this deck is far from perfect, but worked reasonable well and sametime it's at least little different.

I would suggest running 1 photon (for eternity) and something else (e.g oty/pest) for butterfly

So I have to wait until THE butterfly-carrier-card comes out. I see your point. Earlier I played pest-butterfly combo (54 card deck) - so I know..

[Getawu2]

I really like the deck, I play it from time to time when I'm bored of Hope/Rol.

It sometimes starts too slow and takes some time to win, but I like that every card has its purpose. And the winning rate seems to be decent, too (though I haven't made statistics).

[Qohelet]

I really like the deck, I play it from time to time when I'm bored of Hope/Rol.

It sometimes starts too slow and takes some time to win, but I like that every card has its purpose. And the winning rate seems to be decent, too (though I haven't made statistics).

It's pretty good deck (and quite slow). Just thinking: Why Jade Shield is so underrated? Octane is like piece of cake if you have it - so there is one less "auto-quit" opponents and still there is permafrost, quintessences and other usefull stuff.  When waiting for permafrost jade shield can by some time - and don't need PA!

And one picture, just for laughs:



This deck LOVES big nasty Dragons!

[Aviyor]

Could a flooding/inundation be used instead of the permafrost? It'd control most of the board if used in conjunction with alfatoxin, given the fact that the cells don't drown, and the unbreakable jade shield blocks their attacks anyhow.

[BluePriest]

It's pretty good deck (and quite slow). Just thinking: Why Jade Shield is so underrated?

Because it costs 7  and against most Gods it isnt as helpful as a permafrost. And most decks rely on FFQs firefly ability or have more feral bonds, so they need that 

Could a flooding/inundation be used instead of the permafrost? It'd control most of the board if used in conjunction with alfatoxin, given the fact that the cells don't drown, and the unbreakable jade shield blocks their attacks anyhow.

most Gods dont beat you with the number of creatures. Its how fast they get out the big creatures. There are a few exceptions, but most Gods a permafrost works a LOT better. And constantly losing 3  is not good in a rainbow deck. It cant be sustained until late game, at which point you probably already have control of the field anyways.

What surprises me is the lack of improved plague. I love using that. And it will kill any card eventually. Saved my life quite a few times.

[Qohelet]

What surprises me is the lack of improved plague. I love using that. And it will kill any card eventually. Saved my life quite a few times.

Thanks for that tip! I added improved plague to this deck (-1 quantum tower, maybe 11 is enough).