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Animated weapons with SoSe for pvp2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57594.msg1179563#msg1179563
« on: February 17, 2015, 11:15:10 am »
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Hi guys,
Trying to build a fun deck for pvp2 with animated weapons and SoSe. Any suggestions?
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Re: Animated weapons with SoSe for pvp2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57594.msg1179565#msg1179565
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 01:13:53 pm »
Firstly, congrats on your first Deck Post, it can be daunting to throw your ideas out to the community, hope you find help constructive :)
I'll reply to this trying to keep as many of your chosen cards and theme as possible, though it's always going to a be a clunky strategy.

The biggest thing you need to do is get it down to 30 cards. The fewer cards you have, the better your chances for balanced draws, and as you have a max of 6 Animate Weapons, this is a MUST for your deck. So lets have a look at what can go :)
As it's a SN rainbow, and even though you have an entropy mark, all the entropy cards from your SoSes will need your entropy quanta.
-Diss Shield.
-Lycan.
The mark can power the discord and SoSes, so
-entropy pen x2.

A single Shard of Void does literally nothing for you, as you will be doing more damage than it's max health cut. this MUST go. The Steam Machine sadly costs too much to run in a SNBow like this, so:
-Steam Machine
-SoV

Fate Egg is a fun card, I understand why you want it, but for this deck you want to be getting your combos ASAP, so it will be much MUCH better if you can get some HourGlasses in here. I would say
-Fate Egg
+2x Hourglass

That single Phase shield is a preference, keep it if you like, but on it's own it's a bit useless. Consider the fact that you can only have 6 flying weapons, but you can ALSO have one in your weapon slot. Why not have a Lobotomiser? gives you an extra powerful weapon effect. If you are missing the rare, then a Twin Universe also gives you an extra flying weapon.
-Phase Shield
+Lobo/TU

Now it gets tricky, this is how the deck looks now.

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Much better. Still not 30 cards though.
From here it gets difficult. This deck idea is tough to implement because weapons are generally support cards, and you are needing 2 cards (weapon+AW) for each of your attacking creatures, so after a bit of testing, I see why you have the 4 "growth" creatures in there. The 2 Hourglasses help a LOT in getting through your deck, so if you want to play it like this it it should work ok.

The other option 2 options are
a) Focus entirely on your SoSe Flying Weapons. -Lava Golem -FFQ -Forest Spectre and then you can -1 Quantum Tower:

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b) Sacrifice the SoSes to keep more damage and have a better chance of out-rushing your opponents:

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Personally, I would drop the SoSes. SoSes are GREAT, but they take up space in a rainbow, and because your rainbow relies on a combo, you need all the space you can get, and it's a bit too slow without the growth creatures.

Hope this helped, I look forward to seeing other decks you want help with :)

EDIT: After a few games testing, the Deck without the SoSes is actually pretty decent, I'd use that one if I were you. If you want a SoSe bow, make it but i dont think it fits with a combo deck like this :)
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Re: Animated weapons with SoSe for pvp2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57594.msg1179567#msg1179567
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 02:01:28 pm »
Thank you for the comprehensive reply.
First I was trying to make a deck with SoSes for PVP. Because the cards we get from it are random, which makes it challenging to adapt the strategy suited to cards in hand, in turn making it fun. As you rightly pointed out flying weapons need 2 cards for a creature with skill that can as easily be replaced by single card. So maybe the idea wasnt so viable. But the SoSes flying weapons deck you pointed out does a decent job. I will test it further.
The second deck looks nice but without SoSes not much fun for me. Also the idea of flying weapons requiring 2 cards begs the question is flying weapons worth it?
Lastly say if I want to make a deck solely on SoSes which cards i shoud look into, rest assured i got all rares(weapons and shards).
Also why need to restrict to 30 cards only?
Thanks again.
cheers
« Last Edit: February 17, 2015, 02:04:13 pm by agdhar »
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Re: Animated weapons with SoSe for pvp2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57594.msg1179569#msg1179569
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 02:35:44 pm »
In all card games, you want as few cards as possible, unless there is a specific reason to have more. If you have more, you have a much greater chance of getting unbalanced draws, or not drawing key cards until later in the game.
This page is worth a read, and covers many tips including going in further detail about Max 30 cards:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/tutorials/9-tips-for-better-deck-building/

there are many things you can do with SoSe bows. Essentially you want the rest of the deck to be able to manage before the SoSe cards, so that whenever you activate a SoSe, whatever you draw is a bonus. but essentially you can just go 6 QT, 6Snova, 6SoSe, and 1 card you like of each element. or you can try to shoe-horn small synergies in the rest of the cards, like Discord/black hole, or BoneWall+Oty+CC.

Here is a good example http://elementscommunity.org/forum/rainbow-decks/sosebow/
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Re: Animated weapons with SoSe for pvp2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57594.msg1179573#msg1179573
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 03:06:16 pm »
Thanks again for the referral links.
Ater testing out the two decks in trainer, the second one looks more and more good. I guess 3 Soses in the first deck make it hard to draw early so rendering it almost useless.
Will try out with 6 Soses and 30 card limit. Lets see what i can come up with.
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