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An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48605#msg48605
« on: April 05, 2010, 03:29:55 am »
Here is what I have made up.  It actually does have 2 upgraded cards, 2 up'd otyughs, so farm 3000 electrum in T50 or AI3 or something.  I believe the deck CAN work with the otyugh's un-upgraded, but they will be of more limited use.

The mark is entropy,  but I suppose it could be almost anything.  This could allow for some personal customization (I think aether mark with a fractal or two could be good). 

Although, it is nice to be able to get a fallen elf out really fast to mutate problem creatures.

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This deck is ONLY good against some gods (even upgraded anti-FG decks have problems with the tough gods)

Here's the statistics page
http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=2844484368
I haven't played much yet but I'll add as I do.  It would be nice if some people would do sample games to build stats, too :p.  If you think you are good with the deck, just post them here and I'll add them.

The gods I think it can stand up to (overall winning 50-60% at least against these gods) include

Chaos Lord Destiny
Ferox ,Fire Queen
Gemini Incarnate
Miracle Paradox

Some may be on the edge, like Elidnis and Hermes.  This deck is only designed to be a temporary deck to win some upgraded cards, but I think it can be pretty profitable.  If needed, I could write some strategy for it.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 08:23:33 am by willng3 »

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48616#msg48616
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2010, 03:53:51 am »
Sorry but scaredgirl made a deck just like this as an unupgraded version of her ultimate deck and its widely used, almost the same as this.   I use it mostly so see that page

Levgre

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48619#msg48619
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2010, 03:59:57 am »

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48623#msg48623
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2010, 04:04:28 am »
Yeah it is it just seemed like you had made the same deck completely on your own when you talked about entropy mark but I see with two fallen elves you might need it as well as less hourglasses.  Sorry I didn't see the difference

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48770#msg48770
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2010, 01:34:28 pm »
In general...
entropy rainbow have supernova to speed the whole thing up
time rainbow have hourglass to ensure good draws

your rainbow has ?!?!?!?!?!

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48810#msg48810
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010, 02:50:54 pm »
His rainbow has sundials to speed up draws.
Might I suggest throwing a few plate armours to buff your otys?

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48827#msg48827
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 03:12:42 pm »
Funny thing is, that I made an anti-FG deck completely on my own and it looked very similar to this. Three quints, one for the Elf, one for malignant cell, and one for otyugh. My mark was time and I had a lot more hourglasses. Unfortunately now that the cost of 1 hourglass has risen it is not so good. I would add a steal or a dusk mantle, just for a little more defence (and usage of that dark quanta).

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48835#msg48835
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 03:25:05 pm »
Hmm plate armor has potential, both to buff the otyugh and to save the druids.  Then the oty, even un-upped, could eat say a firefly queen or a owl's eye.

I did have two steals in at first, but since the deck doesn't draw extra cards, I think the steal made the deck less consistent.  Even though steal can work great, sometimes you don't need a steal and it isn't a useful card.  However, you always need cards to kill creatures, so more focus was put on making sure you can kill the creatures that will come at you.  However maybe a butterfly effect could fit in nicely, play it on an otyugh for gods like Gemini where you have to destroy lots of permanents.

Dusk mantle could work well, although I think with 4 shield in there, there may be enough already.  Plus the dusk mantle is a bit pricey at 6 dark quantum, which can be hard to get out in a short time frame.  And there is little healing in the deck, so complete damage prevention can be important later in the game.

And yala, the sundials each let you draw one more card.  So since they replace themselves, it is sort of like a 33 card deck, with no drawing.  You just have to draw the right cards.  The biggest use of sundial in this deck is letting you save up quantum.  The quantum pillars work slowly, so you need those extra turns to be able to play phase shields and rain of fire.

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48864#msg48864
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2010, 04:38:25 pm »
Hmm plate armor has potential, both to buff the otyugh and to save the druids.  Then the oty, even un-upped, could eat say a firefly queen or a owl's eye.

I did have two steals in at first, but since the deck doesn't draw extra cards, I think the steal made the deck less consistent.  Even though steal can work great, sometimes you don't need a steal and it isn't a useful card.  However, you always need cards to kill creatures, so more focus was put on making sure you can kill the creatures that will come at you.  However maybe a butterfly effect could fit in nicely, play it on an otyugh for gods like Gemini where you have to destroy lots of permanents.

Dusk mantle could work well, although I think with 4 shield in there, there may be enough already.  Plus the dusk mantle is a bit pricey at 6 dark quantum, which can be hard to get out in a short time frame.  And there is little healing in the deck, so complete damage prevention can be important later in the game.

And yala, the sundials each let you draw one more card.  So since they replace themselves, it is sort of like a 33 card deck, with no drawing.  You just have to draw the right cards.  The biggest use of sundial in this deck is letting you save up quantum.  The quantum pillars work slowly, so you need those extra turns to be able to play phase shields and rain of fire.
I actually miss the sun-dial when I first saw the deck

but definitly steal is good, un-upped ice shield could prove useful too

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48885#msg48885
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010, 05:27:44 pm »
to me, all rainbow decks do not have differences.

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg48891#msg48891
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2010, 05:44:12 pm »
Hmm plate armor has potential, both to buff the otyugh and to save the druids.  Then the oty, even un-upped, could eat say a firefly queen or a owl's eye.

I did have two steals in at first, but since the deck doesn't draw extra cards, I think the steal made the deck less consistent.  Even though steal can work great, sometimes you don't need a steal and it isn't a useful card.  However, you always need cards to kill creatures, so more focus was put on making sure you can kill the creatures that will come at you.  However maybe a butterfly effect could fit in nicely, play it on an otyugh for gods like Gemini where you have to destroy lots of permanents.

Dusk mantle could work well, although I think with 4 shield in there, there may be enough already.  Plus the dusk mantle is a bit pricey at 6 dark quantum, which can be hard to get out in a short time frame.  And there is little healing in the deck, so complete damage prevention can be important later in the game.

And yala, the sundials each let you draw one more card.  So since they replace themselves, it is sort of like a 33 card deck, with no drawing.  You just have to draw the right cards.  The biggest use of sundial in this deck is letting you save up quantum.  The quantum pillars work slowly, so you need those extra turns to be able to play phase shields and rain of fire.
I actually miss the sun-dial when I first saw the deck

but definitly steal is good, un-upped ice shield could prove useful too
I agree steal can be really good, but I tried Ice shield and ran into some problems.  The un-upped ice shield only prevents 1 damage(unlike 2 for the upgraded one), and I found that it doesn't necessarily keep you alive long enough.  The phase shield and bone wall can prevent a lot more damage.

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Re: An attempt at a cheap non-upgraded anti-FG deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4912.msg50802#msg50802
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 04:12:47 pm »
i see an important card wich isnt in boneyard!

 

anything
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