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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg393692#msg393692
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 04:12:42 pm »
Wouldn't something like this be better? (mabye -1 voodoo, -1 Gravity pull, +1 pillar, +1 BB)
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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg393816#msg393816
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 11:03:45 pm »
Wouldn't something like this be better? (mabye -1 voodoo, -1 Gravity pull, +1 pillar, +1 BB)
Looks like you got your pluses and minuses backwards there, but likely not.  The sundials really let you cut down on your dead cards in favor of more consistent draws.  You won't have the aether quanta or defense built up to be able to utilize your extra doll.

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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg393951#msg393951
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2011, 06:56:10 am »
Wouldn't something like this be better? (mabye -1 voodoo, -1 Gravity pull, +1 pillar, +1 BB)
Looks like you got your pluses and minuses backwards there, but likely not.  The sundials really let you cut down on your dead cards in favor of more consistent draws.  You won't have the aether quanta or defense built up to be able to utilize your extra doll.
I meant mabye I should make those changes to my pillar version. Surely pillars are better.

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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg394004#msg394004
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2011, 12:04:29 pm »
Wouldn't something like this be better? (mabye -1 voodoo, -1 Gravity pull, +1 pillar, +1 BB)
Looks like you got your pluses and minuses backwards there, but likely not.  The sundials really let you cut down on your dead cards in favor of more consistent draws.  You won't have the aether quanta or defense built up to be able to utilize your extra doll.
I meant mabye I should make those changes to my pillar version. Surely pillars are better.
That's what I would use.
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Stats show that pendulums are better, but with a voodoo deck, it's a lot of luck. I would like to see 200 games for the pillar and pendulum version. It would be worth it, since this is likely the best unupgraded farmer.
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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg394038#msg394038
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2011, 02:00:48 pm »
I tried Root's version and it was 9% after 50 games.  Like he said, doll decks are highly luck based, but I believe the dials give these builds some consistency.  These poor results were enough to make me want to try improvements.  If you play both versions for even 10 games, you will notice a marked difference in the feel of how they play.

Were having a hard enough time finding a volunteer to do 200 games of the one in the OP, let alone a variant.  People don't really want to grind unupped decks.  I had considered breaking the "rules" of the FGei study and doing the games myself, but I'm trying to wait it out for a bit and see if someone steps up to the plate. 

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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg394105#msg394105
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2011, 04:20:23 pm »
Yeah, it's definitely going to be hard to get these tested. Most people won't want to play this deck, and a lot of people don't have the skill to play it well.
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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg425435#msg425435
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2011, 09:34:56 pm »
'Ello there, community newbie. *nods* I've been experimenting with voodoo decks and, seeing as how I don't have massive amounts of electrum available, I decided to go with your unupped deck before moving onto a better one. ;)

aanyhoo, my point in posting. I don't know if you're still bothering to keep track of stats or if my input here is helpful at all, but I can report one loss against firequeen using the exact deck from the op. Her feral bonds and firefly spam are too killer for this deck to handle I think. It also doesn't help that I got bad draws from the start.. I'm not entirely sure how stats are calculated and all, but I've provided a screenshot moments before my untimely demise. I forgot to take note of gametime though, which I'm guessing might be needed.. *shrug*

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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg425450#msg425450
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2011, 10:03:39 pm »
'Ello there, community newbie. *nods* I've been experimenting with voodoo decks and, seeing as how I don't have massive amounts of electrum available, I decided to go with your unupped deck before moving onto a better one. ;)

aanyhoo, my point in posting. I don't know if you're still bothering to keep track of stats or if my input here is helpful at all, but I can report one loss against firequeen using the exact deck from the op. Her feral bonds and firefly spam are too killer for this deck to handle I think. It also doesn't help that I got bad draws from the start.. I'm not entirely sure how stats are calculated and all, but I've provided a screenshot moments before my untimely demise. I forgot to take note of gametime though, which I'm guessing might be needed.. *shrug*


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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg425451#msg425451
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2011, 10:05:45 pm »
I've done some testing, I'll try to finish out the 100 games sometime within the not-so-distant future. It's currently 7-35, a 16.67% performance.

@above post: Yeah feral bonds are annoying. I'm 0-3 vs. Fire Queen.
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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg425797#msg425797
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2011, 04:24:46 pm »
@OmegaReaper: I've gathered as much. I think my fail there was either 1. Me failing to do math correctly, then firequeen recovering massive amounts of health after having her almost dead (thus making me look stupid), or 2. Me knowing I was going to lose and refusing to die without at least doing *something*, which I've a tendency to do for some reason..

Either way..I played 10 games, lost all of them. I personally blame bad luck, both in draws and FG's faced. I never seem to get enough novas to get my cards out. :/ Being as I'm a poor newbie with voodoo decks, I've taken to farming the arena with my scarab deck :P But I'm still interested in voodoo decks like these, and maybe I'll give it another shot eventually. In the meantime, I'll keep an eye on this thread, g'luck with your testing gentlemen. *nods* and I'll look around for that stat tracking system in the meantime so I can help the community eventually..
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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg523549#msg523549
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I am not suppose to say this,but is this work right now? >.<
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Re: All Dolled Down - Unupped Voodoo FG Farmer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27646.msg523550#msg523550
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2012, 11:11:32 am »
I am not suppose to say this,but is this work right now? >.<

Voodoo decks have been seriously hurt by the AI improvements. It can work, but there are better decks out there. SoSac based decks, and Instosis.
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