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A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262076#msg262076
« on: February 01, 2011, 06:39:33 pm »
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This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result may work very differently now.  Use at your own risk.

This started off as a CCYB and has evolved over the last few months into something else. I would love to say I had Stats...but it never occurred to me to keep them. Sorry. that said, I have beaten every FG at one time or another with this...some more consistently than others. Merits will be discussed below, but for now, I give you A Little Drop of YB. ENJOY!

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262107#msg262107
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 07:56:30 pm »
Obviously the damage of this deck comes from two sources.

1. Neurotoxin. Bang for the buck, this may be the deadliest combo in the game. It only has to hit once...it helps to hit early. Once it hits there's nothing left to do but hang on and ride out the game (that's what shields, shards and antimatter are for). There are three copies of the combo to get it early and to ensure Purify doesn't kill it. Against FGs, this isn't much of a concern. It's also worth noting that FGs play cards..a lot of them...they don't hold back against the Neuro Toxin, so a 35 or 40 points per turn is not rare.

2. Mindgate. This card is a lot of fun, sure, but it also has the serious advantage of making a player play their own deck. in the case of FGs, this is a great strategy as most are NOT equipped to defend against themselves.

3.  Why no hourglass? With the change from Fire for Golems to time for Scorpions, hourglass became costly. This is a trade off that gets offset nicely with the Mindgate...if less controllably.

4. Blackhole: This is a nice finisher as it costs little and against multi-color decks boosts for EM quite nicely. i have had improved Miracle in this slot before as well as heal (and both) which was effective, but for sheer points to cost this is choice.

There you have it, small differences and a lot of fun.

The rest runs very much like CCYB, but these little differences have made this a riot to play and very successful for winning percentages.

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262122#msg262122
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 08:04:12 pm »
No quints? iw ould have thought that the only three creatures would be killed quite easily

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262128#msg262128
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 08:07:32 pm »
you don't need the scorpions to stay on the field, with the exception of scorpio.
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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262130#msg262130
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2011, 08:08:49 pm »
I'm guessing one wouldn't play any of the scorpions unless you had the combo in hand, and thus it wouldn't really matter if it was killed, since all you need is for the combo to hit once for the Neurotoxin to take it's insidious effect.  Also, with the Mindgates, you have an almost unlimited amount of creatures, depending on which FG you're facing.

I am curious to know, however, if there are any FGs that this seems to do particularly well/poorly against in your experience?

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262159#msg262159
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011, 08:59:43 pm »
Well i've tryed this deck and it runs great :D

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262167#msg262167
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011, 09:14:40 pm »
you don't need the scorpions to stay on the field, with the exception of scorpio.
You are absolutely correct, sir! It just takes one hit for the damage to start. In fact, the very little damage done by the scorpion after the initial hit is kind of pointless.

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262170#msg262170
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2011, 09:17:14 pm »
WOW!
great work
only problem i see is early defense...
its a 38 card deck with no hourglasses...
ccyb is 35 with 3 of them, and it has troubles sometimes against rush gods
also, you only have 5 SoG's

so how about swapping a tower with another SoG?

Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262174#msg262174
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2011, 09:20:47 pm »
I think turning this to a time bow would be better (all SNs to QTs, add in an eternity, and however many hourglasses you like)
1) time mark which will enable you to put in hourglasses
2) eternities to prevent deck out (with poison being your damage source, I think decking out could be a problem, I could be wrong)

also, another permafrost helps... two shields with no hourglasses in a 38 card deck... good luck drawing them early enough...

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262175#msg262175
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2011, 09:23:55 pm »
I am curious to know, however, if there are any FGs that this seems to do particularly well/poorly against in your experience?

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I'll break out a basic list and post it shortly. Thanks for checking it out!

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262182#msg262182
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2011, 09:37:41 pm »
WOW!
great work
only problem i see is early defense...
its a 38 card deck with no hourglasses...
ccyb is 35 with 3 of them, and it has troubles sometimes against rush gods
also, you only have 5 SoG's

so how about swapping a tower with another SoG?
I ran up against quanta issues doing that originally. 5 SoG seems to be plenty, but 9 Towers is minimum. Try it out though, if it can be made to work, I'm all for it.

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Re: A Little Drop of Why Bother (1.261 False God Farmer) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20642.msg262183#msg262183
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 09:41:37 pm »
I think turning this to a time bow would be better (all SNs to QTs, add in an eternity, and however many hourglasses you like)
1) time mark which will enable you to put in hourglasses
2) eternities to prevent deck out (with poison being your damage source, I think decking out could be a problem, I could be wrong)

also, another permafrost helps... two shields with no hourglasses in a 38 card deck... good luck drawing them early enough...
You're not wrong. Early on defense DOES suffer. interestingly, with a third shield (it had two permafrosts until recently) it seemed to throw off the draw too much. Again, however, no real stats so this is memory alone talking. But the Jade Shield was mandatory for the spells...though a mirror could also do the job and that might be a good move for a better early game defense. Hmmmmmm....

As to the hourglasses, I decked myself several times...the deck is just tight enough to make them not quite needed...but you're correct that if converted to a Timebow it would move faster...but I'm still a fan of the Pulvys here and feel the eternity would change the flow of the deck. But I think it's worth looking at!

Thanks for checking this out folks!

 

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