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30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg62162#msg62162
« on: May 02, 2010, 11:24:09 am »
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This deck was posted before the 1.32 game update and as a result may work very differently now.  Use at your own risk.

Making 30 card anti-fg rainbow deck is my little obsession and after way too many games with many different decks my conclusion is that 30 card is too few for really dependable / all-around deck. It's always lack in some department. This deck have own flaws but it's still (even sometimes  :))) playable.

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And... play only IF:
a) you have too much electrum AND
b) you don't care about your score

Still you can win games with this one ><.




There is 7 -1/1 cells, AI sucks?
« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 02:53:53 am by willng3 »

Lluis83

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg62193#msg62193
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 01:46:49 pm »
The name of the deck doesn't make me feel confident to try it. :)

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg62197#msg62197
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 01:59:30 pm »
The name of the deck doesn't make me feel confident to try it. :)
It's ok. Don't try it.

EDIT: Personally I like this one and usually every single mistake is fatal :) Like while ago: I was winning Neptune, and after break I just sit down, press space -> instant deck out loss. This deck is fragile thing :o)

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg62210#msg62210
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2010, 02:44:27 pm »
OK i played this deck, it seems to have a low win rate, im posting my win/loss rate
also i would recomend a few RoFs
Hermes 0/1
Dark mater 0/1
morte 1/0
decay 0/1
ferox 0/1
octane 0/1
FFQ 0/1

this deck has one form of creature control making it weak.

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg62218#msg62218
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 03:01:44 pm »
OK i played this deck, it seems to have a low win rate, im posting my win/loss rate
also i would recomend a few RoFs
Hermes 0/1
Dark mater 0/1
morte 1/0
decay 0/1
ferox 0/1
octane 0/1
FFQ 0/1

this deck has one form of creature control making it weak.
There is only few things for that: Alfatoxin, Improved Plague, Otyugh and Eternity. It's typical that takes too many turns to build up defences. RoF is good idea, just thinking what to take out.. -improved plague / +1 RoF ?

I play more games with deck, but this point I can say this deck have obvious problems. Just played against Decay, and I was thinking decking out that FG, BUT when Decay have only 4 cards left damn pest's drain too much time quanta :/ 2 left -> deck out loss.

EDIT: Some more thoughts. Condor is not must have (only for damage), so I can also remove one quintessence - adding firestorm and improved fog, but main problem still stay: quantum don't pile up (buildup is a right term?) as fast as I hope (+2 quantum towers is one option too). Had few very succesful games (just before I post this deck; too hasty...) and afterwards mostly bad ones. Maybe entropy/supernovas are only way around this problem, still looking if 30 card rainbow deck is possible (with time mark).

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg63498#msg63498
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 07:56:13 pm »
First the deck (yes, my obsession don't go away) going from time to entropy..

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Funny thing is: there isn't any quantum towers and still this is kind of rainbow deck. Less funny thing is: IF FG destroy your time towers, you automatically deck out very soon.

But deck is much faster than typical rainbow.

Another known problem is bad draws, but shit happens and when this one get everything ready (= right cards in play), you have good changes for victory. Few games played so far and this is better than first deck - if somebody is crazy enough to test this 'mess' tell me what you think  :))

You may have questions about towers, why there is 2 graviton towers (and only 1 otuygh for 'nom nom'), mostly these odd things are there for speed up the process.

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg63506#msg63506
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 08:04:58 pm »
this deck need 2 photons *one for butter fly and one for rapid rewind* here is a better DOU fg 30 card deck
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+1 electrocutioner, this deck works backwards, the hardest fgs are the easiest to beat and the easy fgs destroy you.

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg63694#msg63694
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 05:48:18 am »
this deck need 2 photons *one for butter fly and one for rapid rewind* here is a better DOU fg 30 card deck
Other Otyugh is for Butterfly Effect. There is still 2 of them, so you have better odds have one early for creature control. (reason why I don't use another RoL or Pest for that)

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Re: 30 Card Anti-FG Deck for masochist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6087.msg63787#msg63787
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 11:19:20 am »
I'd remove the second eternity and put in another defensive item, either another firestorm, steal or antimatter  depending on what you have the most trouble with. I like antimatter, it can really make a difference if the FG gets out that early dragon etc.

 

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