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3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg420648#msg420648
« on: November 04, 2011, 11:39:59 pm »
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This is a new speedbow I built. I'm not sure if I'm posting a deck that somebody had posted before since the forum search was not working.
I'm not sure about it beating ai3 consistenly but I battled ai3 3 times and won all with one EM (5 TURN KILL!).

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I will post the upgraded (*fully*) one soon!
Criticism and suggestions welcome!
Bty, youi can change the deck to your play style.
For example, you might want add more stall so add phase spider and 1 or two wings.
If you want a fast one, take out morning star and wings and add pegasus and phase spider.
Taking out momentum for sapphire charger will also work.
Modifications using:-deflag,-lycan

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Re: 3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg420650#msg420650
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 11:44:36 pm »
OH, and the 5 turn kill was when i got 1 supernova and two novas ( no QP). Dumped all cards in hand(1lycan,1or2grabbys,minor phoenix, 1 precognition) :) :)
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Re: 3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg420698#msg420698
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 02:04:16 am »
I think the Wings is unnecessary. It's hard to imagine AI3 being able to kill you whether you have Wings or not, a lot of the AIs have a lot of damage that gets past it, and you do NOT want Wings to be mindgated/stolen, since it kills most of your own deck. I'd assume you don't have everything upped because of lack of electrum, so the usual solution (up everything for speed) won't work here...

Between the graboids and the precogs, the deck seems heavy on time (and maybe earth) quanta and light on everything else (You're using 5 pillars, a supernova, and 5 novas to power a Momentum, for example). You could either drop a few quanta sources or use more expensive cards. For example:

Lycans are fine
Replace flesh spiders with Arsenic if you have it (spiders have low damage unupped; Arsenic outpaces them after only a single turn unupped)
-Replace Momentum with less sucky :gravity card of your choice
-Graboids are awesome
-Replace 1 or 2 Minor Phoenix w/ 1 Lava Golem DISREGARD; that puts even more strain on :earth quanta
-Blue Crawler's kinda suckish unupped; I suggest Mind Flayer or Forest Spirit
-If you use Arsenic, you can't use Morning Star, so -Morning Star +Pegasus if you have Arsenic
-Wings is a REALLY BAD IDEA against darkness and aether AI3, as mentioned earlier
-No idea what to do with Precog
-Supernova's nice if you have the quanta for it

Maybe add steals to get past nasty shields instead of Momentum/Deflag.

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Re: 3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg420751#msg420751
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 05:38:10 am »
I think the Wings is unnecessary. It's hard to imagine AI3 being able to kill you whether you have Wings or not, a lot of the AIs have a lot of damage that gets past it, and you do NOT want Wings to be mindgated/stolen, since it kills most of your own deck. I'd assume you don't have everything upped because of lack of electrum, so the usual solution (up everything for speed) won't work here...

Between the graboids and the precogs, the deck seems heavy on time (and maybe earth) quanta and light on everything else (You're using 5 pillars, a supernova, and 5 novas to power a Momentum, for example). You could either drop a few quanta sources or use more expensive cards. For example:

Lycans are fine
Replace flesh spiders with Arsenic if you have it (spiders have low damage unupped; Arsenic outpaces them after only a single turn unupped)
-Replace Momentum with less sucky :gravity card of your choice
-Graboids are awesome Yep, and i originaly had 5 but i endded up with lack of damage
-Replace 1 or 2 Minor Phoenix w/ 1 Lava Golem DISREGARD; that puts even more strain on :earth quanta
-Blue Crawler's kinda suckish unupped; I suggest Mind Flayer or Forest Spirit
-If you use Arsenic, you can't use Morning Star, so -Morning Star +Pegasus if you have Arsenic
-Wings is a REALLY BAD IDEA against darkness and aether AI3, as mentioned earlier
-No idea what to do with Precog
-Supernova's nice if you have the quanta for it

Maybe add steals to get past nasty shields instead of Momentum/Deflag.
Possible changes: +arsenic -morning star, precog speeds up deck and should be your last upgrade, -blue crawler +horned frog.
I don't like pegasii because they are pretty fragile. Momentum can be used flexibly otherwise replace with sapphire charger.
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Re: 3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg420757#msg420757
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 05:50:48 am »
Cool deck for AI3. :)

My suggestions:

Remove the Precogs, because you won't have enough :time to upgrade your grabboids with them.
Remove the wings as said before.
Use a Bone Wall if you want a shield badly (and it's a shield that can give EM).
Use a Forest Spirit instead of the blue crawler.
Add a wyrm.
Add a Graviton Mercenary or an Otyugh.
Add a Quintessence.

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Re: 3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg420761#msg420761
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 06:00:28 am »
Cool deck for AI3. :)

My suggestions:

Remove the Precogs, because you won't have enough :time to upgrade your grabboids with them.
Remove the wings as said before.
Use a Bone Wall if you want a shield badly (and it's a shield that can give EM).
Use a Forest Spirit instead of the blue crawler.
Add a wyrm.
Add a Graviton Mercenary or an Otyugh.
Add a Quintessence.
I think you're thinking of an anti false god rainbow. Keep precognitions, qts can generate enough. otyugh isn't good for rushes including quint. Wyrms would make this deck heavy on air and graviton mercenary and bone wall are useless or too expensive.
I WOULD rather go with frogs as they have more starting health and are cheaper. Wings go well with the spiders as well.
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Re: 3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg422522#msg422522
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 09:01:28 pm »
i honestly like this deck becuse of its speed

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Re: 3 Upgrade speedbow! (5 turn kill once) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33345.msg422600#msg422600
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 12:32:44 am »
i honestly like this deck becuse of its speed
It's in the name "Speedbow'. I mainly built this deck for Ai3 and bronze and silver arena.
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