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[Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1109777#msg1109777
« on: November 16, 2013, 02:25:05 pm »
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The deck can handle a singularity very easily if you need to get an epinephrine out first turn. So the following hand is very good: 3x nova 2x deja vu's 1x epinephrine 1x improved fog shield (if you lost the coin toss you get an extra card for starting hand. 1x bravery.) If that bravery gets you just 1 more freedom you'll be piling on the damage very fast.
Or even a sundial to let you get your creatures up higher. Patience on an unupped singularity just makes it waver between -1-->1---->-1 every turn.

It's built to let a deja vu go to 8/8 with adrenalin (attacking while its building up, so use its ability right away) then just finishing off the last 70 HP.
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I've posted the original deck already, but this was way better. I've been pondering for months here and there trying to figure out how to make it better and to run smoothly. It had a rather jagged feel to it before, like you were hanging on the edge of your seat. I toyed around with sundials, precogs, QT, divinities, BB, silences, a nova version (the original),nova:supernova ratio's, improved heal, improved heal+divinity, explosions, improved steals, thunderbolts, Improved fog, dusk mantle, and finally flesh/recluse spider(s). I put in so much work and testing to see what felt right, what did the job best, and what I believe will help you out the most for highest WR:TTW ratio.

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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1109780#msg1109780
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 02:45:35 pm »
http://elementscommunity.org/tools/adrenaline/ adrenaline calculator; you should by no means go higher than 8 atk, unless you think your deja vu is going to get killed next turn or you have smaller deja vus around. Also I think I have seen 1 or 2 very similiar decks before (and they worked just fine)
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1109783#msg1109783
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 03:19:03 pm »
I thought after 8 it still does more damage, but it makes the card adrenalin itself weaker by going higher. (Hypothetically assuming adrenalin does damage by itself)
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1109926#msg1109926
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 04:15:13 am »
Yes, as you can see here, it's possible to do more damage: http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/Adrenaline
Much easier to use that article than calculate every time. Anyway, at 13 attack you start doing more damage than with 8, and 15 is the highest possible total damage. Adren only adds 5 at this point though, as you can see.

However, it's different when we consider SoP. SoP delays the first attack, and the higher your attack power is, the more attack will you lose. At 15 attack it will delay the 15 damage attack but not the 5 damage attack. This means it'll only deal 5 damage at 15 attack :V
With 8 attack you still have 3 attacks to make, so you will be dealing the first blow that does the most damage even under SoP.
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1109950#msg1109950
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 06:36:05 am »
Only 2 Towers seems short, but I don't have test this deck (why not change the mark to  :life since you got only 3 SoBra?). Also, you take a risk with the Mulligan because you got 3 Sundials. However, this is a creative deck.
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1110070#msg1110070
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 08:01:28 pm »
Only 2 Towers seems short, but I don't have test this deck (why not change the mark to  :life since you got only 3 SoBra?). Also, you take a risk with the Mulligan because you got 3 Sundials. However, this is a creative deck.
To make it mulligan happy, how would you suggest changes with sundials? With the towers part ive played a lot of decks similar and 2 towers were sufficient with bravery and draw power. Those decks had 5 braveries in a 30 card deck however, so I have the sundials to a.) draw b.) stall c.) (this could go under stall) let your creatures rack up damage) d.) if your short on life then let your quanta pool up some. I love the braverys. There easy draw power. I'd have to put in 2 time towers and an hourglass to replace them. Which would be 1 draw power card that also takes a turn to use compared to 3 that are instantaneous. Precog could work with 1 time tower 2 precog, but then its a bit more of a quanta strain.
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1110072#msg1110072
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 08:05:38 pm »
Thanks hig. That was a bit more helpful then the adrenalin calculator the forums has.
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1110125#msg1110125
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 12:28:20 am »
P.S. for all the purpose sundials have, the mulligan is little to worry about. You can use a sundial first turn then draw a nova and use sundials ability to draw more. Or chain sundials until you get a decent start, but then you have to make a comeback victory which fog and spare sundials are very good for that.
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1110199#msg1110199
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 08:46:30 am »
To make it mulligan happy, how would you suggest changes with sundials?

Nothing, unfortunately, you could'nt play them unupgraded  :(

 
I love the braverys. There easy draw power.

I love them too  ;) But drawing 2 cards is decent.

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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1110281#msg1110281
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 09:16:13 pm »
To make it mulligan happy, how would you suggest changes with sundials?

Nothing, unfortunately, you could'nt play them unupgraded  :(

 
I love the braverys. There easy draw power.

I love them too  ;) But drawing 2 cards is decent.
2? Is that a hint to change mark to time and use precog and make sundials unupped? It'd be a little strain on time quantum. If it was a typo because fire mark gives bravery 3 card draw then all right. (In the event of a typo that was stated that way on purpose, you should try using the deck  ::) )
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1110386#msg1110386
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2013, 11:57:36 am »
Is that a hint to change mark to time and use precog and make sundials unupped?

No, I was thinking about something more like this (you get 2 extra slots because this build removes the Towers) :

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Anyway, I feel SoPa/Deja Vu (even with epi) weaker than a classical Buffs/Deja Vu/SoBra. But still, your deck is very creative :)
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Re: [Rainbow] Crippled singularity (Name: The elites await you) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52375.msg1110551#msg1110551
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 12:51:40 am »
Is that a hint to change mark to time and use precog and make sundials unupped?

No, I was thinking about something more like this (you get 2 extra slots because this build removes the Towers) :

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Anyway, I feel SoPa/Deja Vu (even with epi) weaker than a classical Buffs/Deja Vu/SoBra. But still, your deck is very creative :)
Yeah it is a tad bit weaker, at best this deck can 3 turn rush while at best the normal buff dejavu is 2 turns :/ but this deck is more so built for arena and creativeness. If your using my other deck Elite Momentum and are having a bad day cause of CC then this is the deck that does good. I was wondering why skull buckler instead of upgraded shield, or any other shield? I know skull buckler costs 3 and blocks 2 damage right? Also i find your version worse because of the 1 less card draw for each bravery and the 1 less freedom really does hurt. Chaos power also can only be used on smaller deja vus then the first one so may clog up your hand. I did nova testing and 5n/1supernova seems best for this deck. So that 1 CP also changes quanta balence and mulligan cause you have to use 6n then.
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