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[Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1108712#msg1108712
« on: November 10, 2013, 07:52:42 am »
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I think this is most optimized to use past.
I picked mitosis instead of Fractal. Fractal is too heavy.
Black hole is very useful against rainbow decks.

Remove your opponent's towers and quantums.

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Re: [Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1108726#msg1108726
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 11:22:36 am »
No discord is making the BH feel bad.

99% sure this sucks against FG.

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Re: [Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1108729#msg1108729
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 12:17:04 pm »
I'd make some (if not all) sundials unupped to 'improve' mulligan.

4 Towers in 35 cards screams for bad opening hand.
On the other hand, with so many duplicates you might afford to discard twice until
you can play SN... But I'd change it nonetheless.
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Re: [Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1108740#msg1108740
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 02:16:53 pm »
Trying to play denial against 2x draw decks is... brave. But I guess this doesn't work, and poking a FG with  vamp dagger takes 34 turns if they don't heal
Every FG has healing or CC
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Re: [Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1108780#msg1108780
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 07:10:35 pm »
Denial against FGs is tricky to pull off at times.  Simply because of the amount of towers, extra quanta, etc you pull off.  Although it can be pulled off with the cards you present.  You have no way to damage or deck out your opponent but 3 vampires, one you are spawning more but still there is no way you can do enough damage against the FGs.  Even a full field (23) meaning you can't deal more than 96 damage a turn.  Giving up on your denial.  To run the full denial instead your going to be pecking at FGs, and two thirds of the field will be pests.  means you will likely be doing at most 24 damage a turn.  This means you need an eclipse at least otherwise most of the time you would be running close if not decking out.  Also to run denial and have entropy, is pretty obvious to have a discord, not much will disrupt most of the FGs more and it'll add some damage. 

So + 1 eclipse, +1 discord minimum.  but what to give up?  I don't know, it'll lose efficiency.

PVP yea, I see that, low level Arena like bronze, I could see too.  FGs, Gold, Plat...  those are going to be rougher...  At least specify the FGs you beat with it or a 10 game run before claiming that when trying to claim a denial against FGs. 

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Re: [Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1108785#msg1108785
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 07:41:48 pm »
Usually I tell people not to use unupped sundials in their decks, as most of the time the slight mulligan improvement isn't worth it, but in the case of this 4 tower deck, I think it is worth using unupped dials.  I'd definitely also try to fit in a few discords.  They'd help with your damage output; as Keeps mentioned, you've just got the vampires for now.  I think I'd add in Shard of Patience as well; if all goes well, you're going to have a bunch of pests out, and burrow works great with that.  (or Eclipse, if you want to stay shardless)  A shield of some sort might be a good idea as well.  I'd definitely pick a cheaper cost one, maybe even Tower Shield, just for ease of casting.  The one major problem with my suggestions is that I have no idea what to actually take out in your deck; all of the cards look to have a decent role.

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Re: [Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1108789#msg1108789
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Re: [Pvp, Anti-FG] Most optimized quantum control deck (pest, mitosis based) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52299.msg1109066#msg1109066
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2013, 02:22:49 am »
Using bravery to put you on lvl ground with the FG's so there double draw is really nice. I suggest changing some EQ to discords cause BH is already rainbow defense and EQ doesnt do as much on a mono then on a rainbow.
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