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[OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1198971#msg1198971
« on: July 28, 2015, 09:33:47 pm »
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personally, I think upgraded would make quite a difference with this deck, but... yeah. if you didn't get it just by looking at it, the idea of the deck is to kill the schrödinger's cat, Gnome rider, or Ash Eater with aflotoxin in one turn. Try to save the Sundials 'til one turn prior to your death, save for if you're fighting a pdials or mono-death deck and you just need the one purify. the adrenaline, should be saved for the first cell, unless you won't be able to use any of your empathic bonds. Use SoPa at your discretion of timing, spam bonds, and once you get to enough damage to kill the enemy, use the chimera.

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1. Aflotoxin
2. Chimera
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4. Adrenaline
5. Everything else, save for sundials
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This is the most current build I'm using, the rustlers work very smoothly with the :light mark, and... yeah. Still convinced it would work much more smoothly with being upgraded, and the strategy, overall, is very much the same, save for the fodder creatures possibly being able to serve a purpose... :D
personal list of upgrade priority!
1. aflotoxin
2. quanta towers
3. SoPa
4. everything else, save for sundials

*to be continued*

and... I thought I would update this thread more frequently, but...whatever.

Final-ish update!

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I could've made it use :death pends, but... getting the aflotoxin out really is important, early game. Having three or four empathic bonds only helps when you have creatures on the field, and with this deck, the aflotoxin is the only way to do it. Be wary of SoFo spam (A.K.A. rage-quit) because this deck just... can't handle SoFos. btw, you can also throw out spark + aflotoxin while SoPa is on the field since... 0 + 2 - 2 =0. Yay, maths! anyways... yeah. On that note, remember that early mass CC, SoFos, or black holes can kill this. No question, blackholes and mass-CC, in the hands of an AI that won't use single-target CC on malignant cells, can and will kill this deck, for obvious reasons.





games against gold
Won:2      Loss:5




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« Last Edit: August 23, 2015, 05:53:31 am by seulintse »
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1198978#msg1198978
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 10:14:27 pm »
Why not photons or sparks? They're free

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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1198979#msg1198979
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 10:21:42 pm »
Why not photons or sparks? They're free

screw with mulligan could be a reason
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1198989#msg1198989
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2015, 12:24:20 am »
thanks, juicyj :D I would use RoLs if I had them, use a sanctuary or a miracle or something, or... yeah. this deck is currently undergoing a lot of changes until I have something I am truly satisfied with
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1199003#msg1199003
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2015, 06:32:00 am »
Try to save the Sundials 'til one turn prior to your death

This isn't the way to stall the game in gold. You'll need to start the chain earlier and do it faster.

Also you can change that ash eater to a phase salvager and remove the chimera while putting and explosion in. That way, you can remove the quantum towers and add 2 more nova in.

And by the way I see there are only 2 SoPs. Do you usually get the damage before the deckout .... I mean 2 SoPs are just too few for my taste but it may just be me.
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1203122#msg1203122
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2015, 12:12:10 pm »
Doin' platinum stats for this upped version:

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Stats:

Games played: 11
Games won: 2

I'd remove from stats the game won vs the 1 HP deck, so stats are:

Games played: 10
Games won: 1
Games lost: 9

L vs Monogravity
L vs a mindgatebow
L vs air/life sofree
W vs a monoaether (1 HP)
L vs a graboid/time duo
L vs a fire/earth duo (played 0 cards)
W vs a waterbow (116 HPs)
L vs monodeath
L vs a darkness bow (Soi and sose)
L vs monogravity
L vs flying weapons bow + sofree

Now that i tried a few this deck, some considerations:

- This deck isn't able to grind plat effectively.
- It needs a quanta balance, too many times i lost without being able to even play a single card.
- It needs a creature balance too (it needs a creatures killed by afla in 1 turn, like a photons or balls)
- With few balance, this deck could be able to grind Silver and AI4.



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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1203691#msg1203691
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2015, 01:24:14 am »
were you just having a $H!+-draw or what? like I said, its not exactly the final copy, and... dafuq? its not the best but it certainly has better than 2/11 plat wins 0_O for me, anyways...
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1203702#msg1203702
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2015, 05:39:54 am »
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Now that i tried a few this deck, some considerations:

- This deck isn't able to grind plat effectively. Posted as a gold grinder anyhow, and would need heavy mods to farm plat
- It needs a quanta balance, too many times i lost without being able to even play a single card.
- It needs a creature balance too (it needs a creatures killed by afla in 1 turn, like a photons or balls)Unupped Leaf Dragons(Rustlers) are 1/1, killed be afla in 1 turn :)
- With few balance, this deck could be able to grind Silver and AI4.
I'm surprised you use this to effectively grind gold. I'll do some testing for you, and post my mods if necessary :)
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1203714#msg1203714
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2015, 10:13:16 am »
I enjoy your writing style, and that you've got a RoL pun in your profile :P

The deck itself seems a bit weak for gold (your stats: lol). But pretty narly if you can set it up!
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1203882#msg1203882
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2015, 09:47:19 pm »
1. I told spike I grinded plat with that and 2. I'm planning on taking out sundials (as cool as they are) and adding various things such as more quantum towers, prolly a dissip field for the shield, sanctuary, +1 leaf dragon and +1 aflatoxin, and... other items. First, though, I have to upgrade them ;P

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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1203894#msg1203894
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2015, 09:52:35 pm »
prolly a dissip field for the shield, sanctuary,
Are you aware those 2 dont work together?
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Re: [OTK][gold] lethargic cells https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59043.msg1203896#msg1203896
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2015, 09:53:11 pm »
I'll notice eventually, if they get thrown in the deck... it happens more often than you think  :P
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