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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg54328#msg54328
« Reply #276 on: April 16, 2010, 05:49:17 pm »
Another Firestorm and maybe a permfrost shield.

2 Firestorms help greatly against several gods, and sometimes a firestorm without the optional bonewall can make creatures devourable.

Enchant artifact greatly helps against octane, rainbow, obliterator, seism. but even with it, you have a low chance of winning. i just skip them anyway and built my deck to slaughter the easier gods even faster. ;-)

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg54369#msg54369
« Reply #277 on: April 16, 2010, 06:57:46 pm »
Your deck is missing an FFQ. It's pretty important, really.

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg55233#msg55233
« Reply #278 on: April 18, 2010, 04:11:08 pm »
How about adding a few SoGs in the deck? I have two shards and don't know if I should upgrade them. Would I need to take something out? 42 is a nice number, too, and I can't think of a situation where you wouldn't want a few.

Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg55782#msg55782
« Reply #279 on: April 19, 2010, 03:47:08 pm »
This looks great! I'm relatively new to the game, but already have a handful of the special weapons as well as 1803 for my score. I'm going to work towards getting this deck, as I know it's needed to start getting better stuff.

A couple things: whats the easiest way to get eternity?

Also, besides the reccomended elites, in what order would you upgrade cards?

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg56130#msg56130
« Reply #280 on: April 20, 2010, 12:18:42 am »
How about adding a few SoGs in the deck? I have two shards and don't know if I should upgrade them. Would I need to take something out? 42 is a nice number, too, and I can't think of a situation where you wouldn't want a few.
They're easily summoned. Only a few quanta. Throw them in.
This looks great! I'm relatively new to the game, but already have a handful of the special weapons as well as 1803 for my score. I'm going to work towards getting this deck, as I know it's needed to start getting better stuff.

A couple things: whats the easiest way to get eternity?

Also, besides the reccomended elites, in what order would you upgrade cards?
Jallen has given a great instruction on that, probably the page before.
And Eternity can be received from the time/aether elder or from T50.

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg56159#msg56159
« Reply #281 on: April 20, 2010, 12:44:53 am »
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They're easily summoned. Only a few quanta. Throw them in.
I have tried, over and over and over to add SoG to my build, and it never increases the effectiveness no matter what I do. 

I have tried the following:

Adding in 3 to 6 SoG without removing cards - The extra cards increase bad draws and slow down the deck.
Adding in 3 to 6 SoG while removing cards - (All cards are necessary to the build, it always hurt more than it helped)
Remove 1 Bond and added in 1 to 2 SoG - Not enough life-gain in many situations.
Remove 2 Bonds and added in 2 to 4 SoG - Way to little lifegain.
Remove 1 Bond and added in 3 to 4 SoG - Extra cards increase bad draws and slow down the deck.
Adding in 1 SoG without removing cards - Most of the time you don't get it early and it's a useless card by the time you draw it.
Adding in 2 SoG without removing cards - Again, the second one you draw is often a useless card by then.

Adding in 2 SoG while removing 1 pillar - Probably the strategy that hurt the deck the least, but by that time I had upgraded pillars, so I don't know if it would work with non-upgraded pillars. 

Peace,
Jallen

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg56243#msg56243
« Reply #282 on: April 20, 2010, 03:31:23 am »
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They're easily summoned. Only a few quanta. Throw them in.
I have tried, over and over and over to add SoG to my build, and it never increases the effectiveness no matter what I do. 

I have tried the following:

Adding in 3 to 6 SoG without removing cards - The extra cards increase bad draws and slow down the deck.
Adding in 3 to 6 SoG while removing cards - (All cards are necessary to the build, it always hurt more than it helped)
Remove 1 Bond and added in 1 to 2 SoG - Not enough life-gain in many situations.
Remove 2 Bonds and added in 2 to 4 SoG - Way to little lifegain.
Remove 1 Bond and added in 3 to 4 SoG - Extra cards increase bad draws and slow down the deck.
Adding in 1 SoG without removing cards - Most of the time you don't get it early and it's a useless card by the time you draw it.
Adding in 2 SoG without removing cards - Again, the second one you draw is often a useless card by then.

Adding in 2 SoG while removing 1 pillar - Probably the strategy that hurt the deck the least, but by that time I had upgraded pillars, so I don't know if it would work with non-upgraded pillars. 

Peace,
Jallen
I guess bond works much better.

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg56286#msg56286
« Reply #283 on: April 20, 2010, 05:30:02 am »
This looks great! I'm relatively new to the game, but already have a handful of the special weapons as well as 1803 for my score. I'm going to work towards getting this deck, as I know it's needed to start getting better stuff.

A couple things: whats the easiest way to get eternity?

Also, besides the reccomended elites, in what order would you upgrade cards?
I'm not an expert (especially when it comes to FGs), but I have been playing this game for about a month or two now.

The easiest way to get eternity? Obviously, farming T50. This is where the AI uses the decks of the Top 50 players in elements against you. Some of them (the nice ones) post "rare farm decks" that usually have 18 pillars, 6 or Rare X, and 6 of Rare Y. In fact, just today, I won 2 eternities and an arctic squid from T50 in one game from a rare farm.

I would upgrade whatever SG said and then half of the pillars. This is so that it will be harder to destroy your pillars because they are in two separate piles (you'll see what I mean). In my opinion, I would upgrade Rain of Fire next, mainly because I despise the seven quanta it takes to play.

Hope that helped!

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg56825#msg56825
« Reply #284 on: April 21, 2010, 02:08:19 am »
I would concur with leaving Shards out. I tried adding them also, but they just healed for less than the bonds in this deck. any time where a shard provides a net health bonus over a bond, you tend to lose anyway because you don't have the creatures out you need to lock down the end game.

Given that (for me so far at least) alot of the false gods are unbeatable with this deck, even so im making a net profit using it.

I'd also suggest that the first thing to upgrade would be the pillars.. it seems to have sped the deck up way more than improving anything else (after the hourglasses and otys ofc).

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg56872#msg56872
« Reply #285 on: April 21, 2010, 04:34:05 am »
Shards of Gratitude are best for Entropy rainbow decks with Supernovas, where the deck size is smaller. Those decks don't generate big swarms of creatures as fast or as many, so Shards help more than Bonds; but for a larger deck, Bonds are usually better.

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I'd also suggest that the first thing to upgrade would be the pillars.. it seems to have sped the deck up way more than improving anything else (after the hourglasses and otys ofc).
I would recommend upgrading the Elf after the Hourglasses and Otyughs. The Druid can make many powerful mutants that will safe your life.

I dunno, 1 upgraded pillar doesn't seem much to me, whereas a Phase Shield with reduced cost would save my life...
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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg57208#msg57208
« Reply #286 on: April 21, 2010, 09:40:12 pm »
OH MY GOSH!!!   :o  I just got totally owned using this deck!

First of all, I love it.  Thanks Scaredgirl.  It's a great deck.  I've added two Quints so I can protect an Oty, the Queen, and my Druid.  One Quint just wasn't cutting it.  If I can get all three of those creatures out I've never lost a pvp battle.  I know you designed it to fight False Gods, but I really suck against False Gods.  Anyway, I'll start with a good story.

Earlier I was playing this guy who put a Malignant Cell on his side.  I had a quinted Oty, a quinted Druid, and an Empathic Bond.  My Oty was having a Malignant Cell feast, but he couldn't keep up.  His side was filling up with Cells fast.  Then I drew a Rain of Fire!  I almost played it, but I knew I had a Bone Wall in my deck and I could survive a couple more turns so I decided to wait.  It took a few turns and I almost died, but finally I drew the Bone Wall and used an Hourglass to draw again and got a Boneyard!  Victory!  I played the Bone Wall and the Boneyard first.  By this time I had another Empathic Bond so I played that too.  Now, this guy had been real cocky all game so before the Rain of Fire I told him "Game Over".  Then BAM!  I played the Rain of Fire and it was glorious!  :P His side was empty, my Bonewall was huge, and my Druid had plenty of skeletons to turn into nasty stuff.  I ended up winning with Elemental Mastery.  That was probably my most enjoyable game of Elements ever.

Then my bad game. :( I got owned by a mono fire deck.  I got onepillar on my first turn, another one on my fourth turn, and that was it.  By that time there were already 2 or 3 Ruby Dragons on the other side tearing me up.  Before I had enough quanta to do anything there were 4 or 5 Dragons on the table and I was dead.  :'(

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg57286#msg57286
« Reply #287 on: April 22, 2010, 12:16:18 am »
For me at least, I'v played in the region of 250 games now with this deck, about 10 games against each god roughly. Bearing in mind i learned the gods with these games, so there were quite a few mistakes leading to a loss that i wouldnt repeat now unless i was tired (decking myself at 0 cards for example, or like, not playing a creature without a quint against a deck that cant kill creatures).

Gods i believe are unbeatable:
chaos lord
dark matter
eternal pheonix
hermes
octane
osiris
rainbow
seism

now most of these destroy your pillars before you get started, or can just put out some xrazy damage to kill you before you can react.. so if i write these off i get:

occasionally beatable (good hand vs bad hand, for example):
decay
divine glory
dream catcer
graviton
morte
obliterator
scorpio

gods that you can get a good win % against:
destiny
elidnis
ferox
fire queen
gemini
incarnate
miracle
neptune


 

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