(almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow

[funplay]

hi i'm new here and i was wondering where do you get 10K to up the deck??? cause i'm shure it ain't from AI3 can someone tell me where to get the money to build this deck???

u dont...i needs some learning how to use this deck properly. But once you are used to it, you can beat false gods even without upgrades...

this is my current version, added some more cards (addional fallen elf, dimensional shield, bone wall and firefly queen) especially miracle (was lucky to get 2 from farming ) is a life saver...and yes, it needs some farming to even get the unupgraded version

4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vm 4vm 52n 52r 52r 55r 55r 592 5c6 5c6 5f8 5li 5oj 5oj 5rl 5rl 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5up 61t 61t 621 621 621 7q5

have around 40-50% wins, though it was mostly against easier false gods...but anyway: even 30% is much better and MUCH more fun as grinding AI3...I was already starting to complain!

@Scaredgirl: TYVM for this really cool setup!! It is a huge help!

edit: had a really good run while writing this...lost almost all follow up matches^^ anyway, the basic setup is good!

[joaopcl]

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vm 4vm 52n 52r 52r 55r 55r 592 5c6 5c6 5f8 5li 5oj 5oj 5rl 5rl 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5up 61t 61t 621 621 621 7q5
what's the mark btw?

[pikachufan2164]

what's the mark btw?

Looks like it's supposed to be to fuel Hourglasses and Eternity.

[funplay]

Sure its , as in the original...

Meanwhile I tried some minor changes, that work sometimes, but made the deck not really better:
adding 2-4 novas, removing 1-2 pillars -> did not really speed up the deck, they it saved my life twice
remove 1 quint, add 1 anubis  -> stronger in lategame, quinted anubis rocks, but more problems at the beginning
add 1 guardian angel, 1 butterfly effect, 1 additional pillar -> adds another strong control combo, but slows the deck down
add 1 mindgate -> really nice for lategame, but again slows down your deck...you dont want mindgame within the first 20 cards...but if you want to go to TOP50 farming, its the card id go for. espcially in mirror matches it was more then once the game winner for me...having that addional oty before my opponent draws it.

Right now, i went back closer to the original, as any changes endanger the deck to become less focussed and therefore slower...and you cant afford that!

I still stick to some changes:
1 less empathic bond, 1 additional miracle -> if 1 cant keep you alive, 2 wont do either most of the time. but a midgame miracle sometimes buys you enough time for your setup
1 additional dimensional shields -> for me an essintial part to keep you alive
some additional pillars -> i did more often having not enough quanta then having too much pillars

one last thing, i didnt read through all post, it has to be already mentioned:

upgrading the elf is for me not high priority...i will probably stick with the fallen elf for quite some time: i think elf is probably more flexible then druid...mutating nasty enemies into abominations or even killing them saved my life more than once, especially with an oty on the table

much higher on my upgrading list are the dimensional shields, as i did quite sometimes cause i lacked the one necessary aether...

if someone is interested, heres the code:
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vm 52n 592 5c6 5f8 5li 5oj 5rl 5rl 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5up 61t 61t 621 621 621 71b 74b 74b 7q5 7q5

(btw won the bone wall, but you could also do almost as well with unupgraded as i try to save it for endgame, after setup is done)

[joaopcl]

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vm 52n 592 5c6 5f8 5li 5oj 5rl 5rl 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5up 61t 61t 621 621 621 71b 74b 74b 7q5 7q5
you should've upgraded the elf. .. helps a lot

[Shrink]

Will someone post a video using screen toaster or something so I can see how to approach a FG with this deck. I read through the other one but it doesn't seem like all of the strategies can be used with this non-upgraded deck

[TheForbiddenOracle]

Is it just me or is this deck a little outdated?

[funplay]

Will someone post a video using screen toaster or something so I can see how to approach a FG with this deck. I read through the other one but it doesn't seem like all of the strategies can be used with this non-upgraded deck

1. Expect some serious losses
2. Its all about timing and careful consideration, so u would probaly need lots of videos, as there are always conderations dependent on the FG u face...
3. cant make videos
4. some off my guidelines (u might already know)

- check creature and other control cards of FG involved
    - are quints and enchant artifact really needed?
    - what are good targets for your steal? e.g. annoying stuff like permafrost shields, fireshields, pulverizer...i stole neptuns poseidon once (wanted to deny land destruction untill i realized he wont have earth quanta) and game took very long cause permafrost came on the table^^
- check the main focus of the FG deck - it determines how fast u have act
- try to get 1-3 hourglasses out as fast as possible as use them as often as possible,you can stop/slow down drawing a lot at around 15 cards unless u need something really urgently
- draw extra cards BEFORE u do the rest...e.g. have oty on the table, devour, draw boneyard/bonewall
- oty has high prority most of the time
- use bone wall carefully, i prefer dim shields and sundials at the beginning
- be patient...accept that u are going to take a lot damage at the beginning. most of the time i dont play sundials unless the dam will kill me within a few turns...BUT there are a lot exceptions
- keep in mind: using eternity on oppenents creatures will slow him down (one less new card to draw) and will remove any modifications...mutating enemies creatures might also work, removing annoying specials (like destroy) and using eternity after mutating may result in the creature never coming back, as enemy dont has the right quanta for it.
-sometimes it necessary take take risks...e.g. playing an unquainted oty against elidnis...if oty is then poisoned by eating a pufferfish or lobotomized u still can call him by eternity...

hope this helps a bit...if not: what are u looking for that u cant learn while doing AI3-5 tests or doing trainer fights?

[pkubighead]

I must say that this is a fantasy idea and combo. However, there is a fatal weakness in my opinion that in this combo we need 3~4 key cards to manage it,and the only way to get all of the cards is drawing,though maybe we could draw many cards in our turns. So,here is the problem. It's "drawing cards" but not "searching your library for the key card(s) and put it(them) on the top of your library". So, I think it's not a stable combo. It just deponds on whether we are lucky enough or not and it will take too many turns to manage the combo so that we can not have enough turns to make the combo work before we lose the game for no card left in the library in our drawing phase.

[ayoth]

Would it work better if I replaced 2-3 of the quantum pillars to time pillars and 1-2 quantum pillars to life pillars?

[funplay]

I must say that this is a fantasy idea and combo. However, there is a fatal weakness in my opinion that in this combo we need 3~4 key cards to manage it,and the only way to get all of the cards is drawing,though maybe we could draw many cards in our turns. So,here is the problem. It's "drawing cards" but not "searching your library for the key card(s) and put it(them) on the top of your library". So, I think it's not a stable combo. It just deponds on whether we are lucky enough or not and it will take too many turns to manage the combo so that we can not have enough turns to make the combo work before we lose the game for no card left in the library in our drawing phase.

yor are partly right, to WIN you need to setup quite a 3-4 card combo...until then its just gaining creature control and staying alive...but thats the reason the deck contains 6 sundials, dimensional shields and hourglasses...i actually increased to the number of hourglasses to 5 in my most recent variant...its just as sacredgirl noted in the first post: if you cant draw additional cards, you are dead.

concerning decking out, your dead wrong: eternity pervents that. main idea of this deck.

Would it work better if I replaced 2-3 of the quantum pillars to time pillars and 1-2 quantum pillars to life pillars?

no it wouldnt --> slow down gaininge essential graviton mana (oty) and aether mana (shields an quint).

aether pendulums could an idea...but i think they wouldnt make a significant difference...

life qunta is not used by any other source in this deck AND if you play ffq early, the fly give you life quanta...there were some few games, were I had a miracle, but not the sufficient mana...but most of the time i had enough. miracle is in the deck for emergency rescue in midgame or easier EM.

I gave another variant a try, replacing the ffq with a pharaoh and adding a mindgate. for this variant i replaced 2 pillars with 3 aether pendelums...for me a single pharaoh didnt ever work good enough, to actually have scarabs eating sth and mindgate was nice, but only for 1 winning situation (copied an improved miracle exactly when i needed it). But in many games it was just a fun or useless card. but the aether pendulums were nice...until i lacked some graviton quanta in some games^^

[funplay]

Is it juts me or is this deck a little outdated?

which one? the original or my mod?

anyway: after another day, i have come to the conclusion that antimatter and fractal are really useful additions...AND that getting some SoGs is really high priority...they really make you live much longer!

final comment: the original deck by sacredgirl is really useful for starting god farming...gives you quite realiable wins against easier gods and some rare wins against average ones, if they got bad draw or you a good one...but from the experience i made, i would go up to 45 cards, adding 2 more dim shields, 2 aether pendulums and a miracle or an additional bone wall...you simply need that defense at the beginning.

Will stop to comment on this deck though cause got enough upgrades meanwhile that my actual false god farming deck has become more like the upgraded variants...