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thraexis11

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg131673#msg131673
« Reply #432 on: August 05, 2010, 08:25:33 am »



Actually I never had enough quanta with this deck ( before i upgraded pillars) and that was the reason that I added 1-2 more pillars to the original deck and it started to work much better. Later on, when you upgrade pillars you should probably remove those extra pillars, but until then you should probably know what works best for you.
Oh and about grinding top 50- I think it is much better to farm lvl 3 if you are going for electrum only- it is much faster and easier. top 50 farm is mainly to get rare cards that you canĀ“t win in any other way.
But I think the best way to get rich faster would be to upgrade as much cards as you can and start winning some FG battles- upgrade hourglasses, and otys first , and then you should probably go for all pillars- you will see a big difference with your quanta pool and the deck will work much better.

azen186

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg131827#msg131827
« Reply #433 on: August 05, 2010, 04:26:35 pm »
ok, fair enough. i'll do that, thanks! :]

i had actually already upgraded otoyghs, hourglasses, and a fallen elf as suggested in the original post. so pillars are next? i can live with that.

hm... i have heard that grinding level 3s is a better way to rack up electrum. but i used to grind top50s so that i could sell rare cards that i accumulated for a lot of electrum at once. is this still not as fast as grinding level 3s?

i may revert to another deck, continue to gain electrum until i can upgrade many more cards, and go for the false gods. although this will take a very long time. :[

thank you!

kobisjeruk

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg132344#msg132344
« Reply #434 on: August 06, 2010, 11:36:20 am »
@azen186
if you have a good deck vs T50, it is way better to grind T50 instead of AI3

azen186

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg132473#msg132473
« Reply #435 on: August 06, 2010, 04:39:56 pm »
hi everyone,

i just wanted to say that this deck has actually been working VERY well for me now, i wanted to thank sSethia in particular! i was playing the deck wrong the entire time. now i'm winning consistently and i've upgraded seven additional cards in the deck - and there's even more to come, hopefully.

i also want to say that the deck is a lot of fun to pilot. the strategy is so awesome, kudos to scaredgirl for thinking up of it!

so yeah, thanks! things are looking better. :D

ellak96

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg133137#msg133137
« Reply #436 on: August 07, 2010, 07:01:06 pm »
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How about this one? any tips or deck critiques?

sSethia

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg133157#msg133157
« Reply #437 on: August 07, 2010, 07:35:36 pm »
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How about this one? any tips or deck critiques?
You have too much :aether usage. Remove at least 1 quintessence. Also, you need the Sundials. It's hard to win without them as you need to stall to build up your bonewall.

ellak96

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg133256#msg133256
« Reply #438 on: August 07, 2010, 10:29:29 pm »
how many sundials?

wavedash

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg133262#msg133262
« Reply #439 on: August 07, 2010, 10:49:06 pm »
I'd suggest 6.

agdhar

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg134410#msg134410
« Reply #440 on: August 09, 2010, 03:19:04 pm »
1st off I would like to thank you SG, for this wonderful deck.
I got started with FG killing, with Fire Lance sudden killer (work with no ungrade) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6758.msg79435.html#msg79435) .A really good deck which works with no upgrades and without eternity.After some fg wins i got a eternity.After which i started using SG rainbow deck ,which gave better win rate against fg than previous deck.And now i am on my way to make better decks which have higher win %.

My tweaks with this deck:
1)from my experience i found out,I wind up with too many hourglasses with apparently no quanta or no use.So i took out 1 hourglass.
2)Against Fg with CC,i find having 3 quintessence really helps a lot .so i added a quintessence
3)For me, quanta was always a problem with this deck in getting me started so initially i added 2 quantum pillars and grinded FG with 42 cards deck.after i upgraded my quantum pillars to towers i took out 1 pillar out.so i use 9 towers and 7 pillars at the moment.
4)I found out FG like Incarnate which have low attack creatures and are easy most of the time,can overwhelm you if your draw is unlucky.So adding a Diamond shield can save you from being overwhelmed.
It also helps against Orisis ,whose creatures attack even though low will kill you before you have enough defense out.Pharaohs have only 3 attack and diamond shield prevents 3 attack.do the math.
Advantage of having this card is it uses  :earth,which practically is useless quanta in this deck.so imagine a situation where you have excess of :earth and phase shield how you will be thinking if i had shield which uses earth.
Ofcourse it depends on luck of draw.I just hope my luck favours me :)

My tweaked deck of Sg's rainbow deck:
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Note:most of my cards are upgraded than shown in the original deck in 1st post,but upgrades are mostly to give me a slight edge and ,also because i am trying to build another deck.

Edit:A tip i would like to share:If you have eternity and fallen elf/driaid in your play,you can mutate opponent creature and rewind it.Helps when u fight a dio/trio FG and the mutated creature is neither of those elements.that way u can prevent FG from playing a card.

Edit2 :For people like me with little experience and few upgraded cards,imo its better to skip some Fg's like Dream catcher, Dark Matter, Eternal pheonix, Hermes,Octane, Rainbow, Seism,Scorpio.Saves you from frustration and time.

Fg which u can finish with EM or atleast a win(Most of the time):
Chaos Lord:one of my favorite FG with this deck..always EM
Decay:you need a Oty  or driaid with quintessence to take care of pests otherwise quit.
Destiny:bit tricky depends on who gets eternity and/or hourglass 1st
Divine glory:hard (if u can manage to steal his burning tower or his draw is bad wrt Burning pillars)
Elidnis:almost always EM
Ferox:almost always EM
Gemini:almost always a EM
Fire queen:tricky but beatable
Graviton:hard
Incarnate:EM dont accept anything less
Miracle:If you manage to kill it ,most likely you will have EM
Morte:Hard luck dependent
Neptune:easy,almost always EM
Obliterator:If you can manage to steal his Pulverizer ,otherwise quit
Osiris:easy if you get Diamond shield out quickly
Paradox:easy..aim for EM

Edit 3:Just wanted to show,how Diamond shield won me a game,where i lost hope.
i lost one oty and fallen driad before i could use quintessence ,and lost eternity before i could get protect artifact out.





agdhar

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg134442#msg134442
« Reply #441 on: August 09, 2010, 03:53:42 pm »
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How about this one? any tips or deck critiques?
w.r.t Butterfly effect in your deck,on what creature you plan to play it on.
That deck has 4 creatures each with their own skills .
In most cases, by the time you will play that card on a skeleton there will be two possibilities a)either your are totally secure in which case you dont really need it. b)you are making a desperate attempt to save your game by using that card on one of the 4 creatures in your deck in which case ,its already too late to destroy permanents to save game.
So i think that card which is dependent on another card Boneyard isn't much useful.

Chaosnake

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg134985#msg134985
« Reply #442 on: August 10, 2010, 07:21:19 am »
I'm new on these forums, and pretty new to this game, however, I used to play several CCG games competitively.  Anyways, Here's what I'm running now:
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I've tested many many variations of the deck, and so far have found that 40 cards is the perfect number.  Any less and I don't have enough answers in my deck, any more and it becomes far too inconsistent.  The deck as is, beats certain Fake Gods very reliably, and others stands no chance against.
Here's my current Win-Loss records with this version of the deck:
Chaos Lord 1-0
Destiny 1-1 (the loss was caused by the first fate egg turning into Black Hole nymph....)
Divine Glory 0-1 (almost had it)
Dream Catcher 0-1 (didn't have a chance)
Ferox 1-0 (probably one of the easiest FGs)
Graviton 0-2 (didn't have a chance, momentum kills me)
Incarnate 1-0 (very easy)
Miracle 2-2 (the 2 losses are from insane amount of light producing photons, and giant dragons on the 2nd-3rd turn)
Obliterator 0-3 (almost had it once, but the other 2 games I was obliterated, how do I get so unlucky to play against it 3 times)
Paradox 0-1 (almost had it, until he used Multiple Parallel Universes on my 26/26 Mutated dragon, which he then killed me when I was at full health with no shield/sundial for 1 turn.)
Rainbow 1-2 (the losses came from him just being insanely fast)
Scorpio 0-1 (Had no chance)
Seism 0-1 (almost started to get him locked down, but he killed me before I could)
7 Wins
13 Losses
35% win percentage

My question is, what do I upgrade next?  And are Shards of Gratitude worth the add??
Here's what I know works, but chose not to have in:
Miracle- Yes, it can save me 1 out of every 20 games, yes it increases the amount of EMs I get, but most of my wins are already EMs without it.  So I took it out for a 2nd steal.
4th Hourglass- Yes, draw is good, but sometimes I would get too many of these (my deck is only 40 cards, and Time quanta is used a lot already), so I took it out for a 2nd Quintessence which I found helpful in many games.
That's the only real variations I would reccomend is -1 Quintessence, -1 Steal, +1 Miracle, +1 Hourglass.

Here's what I've already tried and tested (at least 20 games) and found doesn't work as well:
Butterfly Effect- it's not a good card, Steal works better in the early game, in the late game, I can control the board until my Fallen Druid mutates a destroyer.
more than 1 Dimensional Shield- Was good, but overall wasn't worth it, too much Aether quanta already with 2 Quintessence and the 1 Dimensional Shield, plus I have Bonewall and the Steals which usually steal shields.
Pulverizer- pretty much the same reasoning as Butterfly Effect, was okay, but not great, also takes up the Eternity weapon slot.
Flying Weapon- When i used Pulverizer, I also tried Flying Weapon so I could essentially have 2 weapons out, wasn't worth it at all.
Mindflayer- Worked okay, but generally was easily killed off quick, and took up deck space, and again, Aether Quanta is already too high at 1 D Shield and 2 Quintessence.
Graboid/Forest Spirit/Lava Golem- In the end, wasn't worth it, this deck isn't a speed deck, no need to add speed to it, it's a control deck, and that's all it has room for really.
Supernova/Nova- Quantum pillars were better in their place in most cases.
Owl's Eye- same reasoning as Pulverizer.

cookiepirate

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg135288#msg135288
« Reply #443 on: August 10, 2010, 07:06:20 pm »
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How about this one? any tips or deck critiques?
w.r.t Butterfly effect in your deck,on what creature you plan to play it on.
That deck has 4 creatures each with their own skills .
In most cases, by the time you will play that card on a skeleton there will be two possibilities a)either your are totally secure in which case you dont really need it. b)you are making a desperate attempt to save your game by using that card on one of the 4 creatures in your deck in which case ,its already too late to destroy permanents to save game.
So i think that card which is dependent on another card Boneyard isn't much useful.
butterfly effect is for the second oty i believe, if no more otys, then skeleton

 

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