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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg128583#msg128583
« Reply #420 on: July 31, 2010, 04:21:28 pm »
SG should make a new strategy tips thing for this deck because of the new gods.

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg128584#msg128584
« Reply #421 on: July 31, 2010, 04:22:15 pm »
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This is the one I am running. Any ideas for improvements?
I would remove a momentum, mind flayer, a pulverizer, and a flying weapon. Then I would add in a butterfly effect for your second Otyugh.

This way you can have:
Creature Control - Quintessenced Otyugh
Permanent Control - Quintessenced Butterfly Effect'd Otyugh
Damage - Quintessenced Fallen Druid OR Quintessenced Firefly Queen.

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg128593#msg128593
« Reply #422 on: July 31, 2010, 04:37:26 pm »
Dude, it worked so much better. it EM'd neptune. Thanks a Lot!!!!

Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg129031#msg129031
« Reply #423 on: August 01, 2010, 06:42:11 am »
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Then I would add in a butterfly effect for your second Otyugh.
Ooooooooh.  I need to do that to my entropybow - makes use of the mark well, and more renewable than Pulvy, though I'll keep the Pulvy in since it doesn't need to be quinted.

It's also not mutually exclusive with the ubiquitous Eternity!

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg129841#msg129841
« Reply #424 on: August 02, 2010, 06:43:43 pm »
is the original posted deck still viable as of 1.24? or do i need to make some changes for it to work?

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg130762#msg130762
« Reply #425 on: August 04, 2010, 03:21:45 am »
What are your thoughts on this build?  I subtracted an Hourglass, and I added a Butterfly Effect for an Otyugh, a Quintessence for that Otyugh, and Miracle to boost EM prospects.

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg130872#msg130872
« Reply #426 on: August 04, 2010, 07:10:28 am »
What are your thoughts on this build?  I subtracted an Hourglass, and I added a Butterfly Effect for an Otyugh, a Quintessence for that Otyugh, and Miracle to boost EM prospects.

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Since you have that Butterfly Effect, you can remove the Steal.

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg131094#msg131094
« Reply #427 on: August 04, 2010, 05:00:20 pm »
Sounds good to me.  Thanks.

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg131601#msg131601
« Reply #428 on: August 05, 2010, 04:33:00 am »
hi everyone,

i've beating top50s for some time until i've had the electrum to purchase the deck in the original post (with the upgrades and everything).

unfortunately, it's not working too well against false gods... i've lost every game up to this point. it feels like i'm just throwing up defenses to stall my opponent. my win conditions are weak. i always get pummeled in the end.

any tips on how i could win? is this deck outdated? are there deck modifications i can make?

i do have enough electrum for two more upgrades left over from training on top50, so i guess i could improve the deck... i don't want to take chances though. i'm not too sure what the best option would be. help? :[

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg131641#msg131641
« Reply #429 on: August 05, 2010, 06:31:12 am »
hi everyone,

i've beating top50s for some time until i've had the electrum to purchase the deck in the original post (with the upgrades and everything).

unfortunately, it's not working too well against false gods... i've lost every game up to this point. it feels like i'm just throwing up defenses to stall my opponent. my win conditions are weak. i always get pummeled in the end.

any tips on how i could win? is this deck outdated? are there deck modifications i can make?

i do have enough electrum for two more upgrades left over from training on top50, so i guess i could improve the deck... i don't want to take chances though. i'm not too sure what the best option would be. help? :[
I had same problem, the deck just doesn´t work too good with only 7-8 upgrades - it wins every 1-2/10 i would say which isn´t too bad with unupgraded cards.
I upgraded it fully and then win ratio increased- it was decent deck for me but I was still losing lots of games , and the deck is quite slow - so I wasn´t really too happy about it.
Then I tried CC why bother deck, and I have to say it is much better  and faster  , it is probably the best deck for farming FG-s at the moment- the problem is that it doesn´t work if it is not fully upgraded.
So my advice is : play this deck until you get electrum for fully upgrade of CC why bother deck and then switch to it- you will start to earn tons of cards and electrum with it once its fully upgraded. Oh yes and upgrade the pillars first- they speed up the deck significantly.

sSethia

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg131646#msg131646
« Reply #430 on: August 05, 2010, 06:49:35 am »
hi everyone,

i've beating top50s for some time until i've had the electrum to purchase the deck in the original post (with the upgrades and everything).

unfortunately, it's not working too well against false gods... i've lost every game up to this point. it feels like i'm just throwing up defenses to stall my opponent. my win conditions are weak. i always get pummeled in the end.

any tips on how i could win? is this deck outdated? are there deck modifications i can make?

i do have enough electrum for two more upgrades left over from training on top50, so i guess i could improve the deck... i don't want to take chances though. i'm not too sure what the best option would be. help? :[
Ok. There are a lot of different things you need to know when playing this deck. I don't want to sound like an expert, but here it goes.

First off, play your pillars obviously, except for when you're facing Seism, where you put down one pillar at a time unless you have your Enchant Artifact.

Next, play your permanents and creatures (WITH QUINTESSENCE!!). Don't start chaining your sundials yet. Let the False God hit you down to about 30-40 hp.

Now you start chaining your Sundials. Put down 1 every turn and make sure to use its ability (hasten). You should also put down the Dimensional Shield if you draw it.

While you're chaining those dials, put down your bonewall and boneyard and use your Quintessenced Otyugh to eat up creatures and build it up. Hopefully, you'll have an army of skeletons and a Bonewall with a lot of charges by the time you're out of Sundials. Also, if you draw Rain of Fire, use it to get big creatures down to Devourable range and to kill the little ones.

Now, you should be healing back the some hp with your Empathetic Bonds. Keep eating creatures to try to keep the bonewall up.

You should have an Otyugh, Fallen Druid, and Firefly Queen out by now. When you're going to deck out rewind skeletons with an Enchanted Eternity. Use the Firefly Queen to make Fireflies, eat them with your Otyugh (to grow it), and when it turns into a skeleton because of the boneyard, use your Fallen Druid and mutate it into a big monster.


That's about it. Hope I helped, and good luck.

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Re: (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg131655#msg131655
« Reply #431 on: August 05, 2010, 07:26:30 am »
hi everyone,

i've beating top50s for some time until i've had the electrum to purchase the deck in the original post (with the upgrades and everything).

unfortunately, it's not working too well against false gods... i've lost every game up to this point. it feels like i'm just throwing up defenses to stall my opponent. my win conditions are weak. i always get pummeled in the end.

any tips on how i could win? is this deck outdated? are there deck modifications i can make?

i do have enough electrum for two more upgrades left over from training on top50, so i guess i could improve the deck... i don't want to take chances though. i'm not too sure what the best option would be. help? :[
Ok. There are a lot of different things you need to know when playing this deck. I don't want to sound like an expert, but here it goes.

First off, play your pillars obviously, except for when you're facing Seism, where you put down one pillar at a time unless you have your Enchant Artifact.

Next, play your permanents and creatures (WITH QUINTESSENCE!!). Don't start chaining your sundials yet. Let the False God hit you down to about 30-40 hp.

Now you start chaining your Sundials. Put down 1 every turn and make sure to use its ability (hasten). You should also put down the Dimensional Shield if you draw it.

While you're chaining those dials, put down your bonewall and boneyard and use your Quintessenced Otyugh to eat up creatures and build it up. Hopefully, you'll have an army of skeletons and a Bonewall with a lot of charges by the time you're out of Sundials. Also, if you draw Rain of Fire, use it to get big creatures down to Devourable range and to kill the little ones.

Now, you should be healing back the some hp with your Empathetic Bonds. Keep eating creatures to try to keep the bonewall up.

You should have an Otyugh, Fallen Druid, and Firefly Queen out by now. When you're going to deck out rewind skeletons with an Enchanted Eternity. Use the Firefly Queen to make Fireflies, eat them with your Otyugh (to grow it), and when it turns into a skeleton because of the boneyard, use your Fallen Druid and mutate it into a big monster.


That's about it. Hope I helped, and good luck.
thank you!!! that was very, very helpful. i had always had a bad habit of playing sundials too early, this is certainly some which i would like to try. i'll give the deck another shot with this in mind. :D

oh, and i also forgot to add this in my last post. is it often that you guys get the wrong amounts of quanta because the pillars generate random quanta? this has happened to me before, and it only makes things worse that a fairly large number of cards in the deck are expensive to cast.

hi everyone,

i've beating top50s for some time until i've had the electrum to purchase the deck in the original post (with the upgrades and everything).

unfortunately, it's not working too well against false gods... i've lost every game up to this point. it feels like i'm just throwing up defenses to stall my opponent. my win conditions are weak. i always get pummeled in the end.

any tips on how i could win? is this deck outdated? are there deck modifications i can make?

i do have enough electrum for two more upgrades left over from training on top50, so i guess i could improve the deck... i don't want to take chances though. i'm not too sure what the best option would be. help? :[
I had same problem, the deck just doesn´t work too good with only 7-8 upgrades - it wins every 1-2/10 i would say which isn´t too bad with unupgraded cards.
I upgraded it fully and then win ratio increased- it was decent deck for me but I was still losing lots of games , and the deck is quite slow - so I wasn´t really too happy about it.
Then I tried CC why bother deck, and I have to say it is much better  and faster  , it is probably the best deck for farming FG-s at the moment- the problem is that it doesn´t work if it is not fully upgraded.
So my advice is : play this deck until you get electrum for fully upgrade of CC why bother deck and then switch to it- you will start to earn tons of cards and electrum with it once its fully upgraded. Oh yes and upgrade the pillars first- they speed up the deck significantly.
hmm.... perhaps you're right.

what do you recommend, then? should i keep grinding top50s until i have enough upgrades? (i certainly don't look forward to that). :[

i would actually be very, very happy with a 1-2/10 win ratio... i've played like 15 games with all loses. they were pretty bad loses too. usually the deck runs out of gas quickly - if only sundial weren't nerfed! sigh...

thank you everyone for your help! i am very, very grateful :)

 

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