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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg32645#msg32645
« Reply #108 on: March 04, 2010, 03:59:53 pm »
anyone has any tips on what to do to move towards this deck when I
1: don't have eternity
2: dont have any upgrades

it's a bit of a problem as this deck is already considered a bit of a farming deck

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg32653#msg32653
« Reply #109 on: March 04, 2010, 04:30:43 pm »
anyone has any tips on what to do to move towards this deck when I
1: don't have eternity
2: dont have any upgrades

it's a bit of a problem as this deck is already considered a bit of a farming deck
I started off with this deck without any upgrades. However, if you need eternity, heres my sugggestion. Make Either a shrieker/graboid or a monoaether Rush deck. I prefer the shrieker deck myself. Then all you have to do is start farmin the t50 until you get eternity (may take a while) and then from there I would start on the fgs and work on your upgrades from there. Just sell the upgraded cards you win until you can upgrade your cards.
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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg32708#msg32708
« Reply #110 on: March 04, 2010, 07:32:06 pm »
I have a few shards i could up to Shards of Gratitude, I also want to add another nova (have 1 already on deck) what do you recommend i add first? or is the SoG not useful on this deck? Have not seen anyone recommend this card before...

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg32963#msg32963
« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2010, 12:44:09 am »
Hey wat exactly is the strategy

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg32979#msg32979
« Reply #112 on: March 05, 2010, 01:11:49 am »
Hey wat exactly is the strategy
You depend on oty to eliminate enemies, boneyard to give you skelletons and/or queen to give you fireflyes for your druid to transform to big mutatants for damage, sundial acts both as a shield and as an extra card, bonewall you use until you can keep killing enemies so the +2 walls per kill is bigger than the # of damages you receive, dimensional shield and steals (use for weapons and shields 90% of the time) help you stall till you get your game up, bond gives you life and weapon helps you dont deck out. Try the deck at lvl 5 its really easy and youll win most matches, until you get the hang of it.

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg33070#msg33070
« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2010, 02:20:48 am »
Just wondering Scaredgirl, what is your percentage tested against ALL the gods including the "new" ones ( Octane, Obliterator, Dark Matter, etc.)? ::) 

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg33201#msg33201
« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2010, 05:52:36 am »
Just wondering Scaredgirl, what is your percentage tested against ALL the gods including the "new" ones ( Octane, Obliterator, Dark Matter, etc.)? ::)
I know you asked her... but I hope my experience helps... Obviously it all depends on the god, here are my thoughts on each one I've fought:

Chaos Lord:  Medium dificulty, win most battles.

Dark Matter: Hard Don't remember ever beating him, his black holes are just to much for our pillars... need more quantum with this one.

Destiny: Don't recall fighting this one yet.

Divine Glory: Impossible to beat IMO with this deck... his swords and control cards are hard...

Elidnis: Easy, has some congeals but I've never lost to him.

Ferox: The easiest of all in my opinion. Never lost to him and dont see how he could win ;)

Firefly Queen: Easy God but can beat you. If you get a bad draw you could end up getting beaten, other than that, I've won most fights..

Gemini: Haven't fought him.

Graviton: Haven't foiught him.

Hermes: Won once, lucky draw vs unlucky draw of him and bad AI, but other than that a really hard god.

Incarnate: Easy, but only fought him once.

Miracle: Long but easy battle, only lost once due to bad draw.

Morte: Medium difficulty but beatable...

Obliterator: Impossible in my opinion although I've read  you can beat him with this deck somewhere in the forums...

Paradox: Haven't played him much but beat him twice.. (i think)

Rainbow: Hard MoFo, unbeatable in my opinion.

Scorpio: Dont remember this guy.

Seism: Hard, need more quantum, I've lasted long battles with him and I know it can be beat but you need a lot of luck and play your pillars one buy one due to his control cards...

So, other than the gods I consider unbeatable with this deck you have I would say a 75-90% chance of beating the easy/medium gods, depending on your strategy and draws.

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg33250#msg33250
« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2010, 08:50:08 am »
Seism: never beat (destroy all pillars)
Scorpio: beaten only once (fast poison)
Graviton: it depends only on your luck...if you get early the right card, you could win.

P.S. IMO only 5-6 FG could be smashed (one or two only with lot of luck)

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg33288#msg33288
« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2010, 01:11:50 pm »
Here is my strategy.

This is a general strategy, not specific to all gods (like seism where it would obviously change)

1)Play All quantum towers as fast as you can,
2)Only use sundials once you geet to about half HP.
3)Steal the opponents shield, or weapon if its good. Only steal weapon if eternity is not out.
4)Electrum hourglasses are good. If you have an hourglass out, and 3 time quantum, and an hourglass in your hand, play the hourglass. Its worth getting to draw 2 cards next time instead of 1 card now.
5)Dimensional shield before bone wall if possible. If its a single Enemy, Bone wall is better. Lots of enemies, use dimensional shield.
6)Best combo this deck has is waiting for your opponent to get a lot of small 3 or less hp out, having a bone wall and a boneyard on the field, and then using rain of fire to get a large army and massive shield.
I like putting up my bonewall while my oty is on the field, and using sundials to stall so they cant attack, but I can have my oty eat at the monsters increasing the size of the bone wall.
7)Your fallen elf/druid has 2 uses. 1 is to mutate your skeletons to make them more powerful. The other use though, is to mutate your opponents monsters to make them weaker so that your oty can eat them.
8)Firefly queen. Here is what I normally do with it. Make a firefly, eat with oty, then mutate the skelly that comes from your boneyard with it with the fallen elf. If you dont have boneyard, and your opponent doesnt have any monsters your oty can eat, then I would go on ahead and eat the fireflies with oty until he gets about 10 hp that way if your opponent does play a monster, your oty should be able to eat it regardless. And then mutate all the fireflies you get.
9) ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS! Try to play eternity with protect artifact. Do NOT remove eternity from the field after you have played it. When you are down to your final card in your deck, use eternity to rewind one of your monsters so that you can draw it the next turn, play it, then rewind it again. Oherwise you will deck out and loose.
A little side note for a use of eternity, If you find yourself with a ton of time quantum for some wierd reason, I like using eternity to rewind the fgs monster each turn. I do this because that makes the fg essentially only picking up 1 card a turn, which greatly handicaps them. Idk who else likes doing that, but I enjoy it quite a bit.
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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg33453#msg33453
« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2010, 07:30:48 pm »
A little side note for a use of eternity, If you find yourself with a ton of time quantum for some wierd reason, I like using eternity to rewind the fgs monster each turn. I do this because that makes the fg essentially only picking up 1 card a turn, which greatly handicaps them. Idk who else likes doing that, but I enjoy it quite a bit.
I used to do this but then I realized FG pick up more than 1 card per turn... (or that's what I thought) I think I saw that on a FG with no hourglasses or sundials or any item that allowed him to pick an extra card.

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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg33679#msg33679
« Reply #118 on: March 06, 2010, 02:32:46 am »
A little side note for a use of eternity, If you find yourself with a ton of time quantum for some wierd reason, I like using eternity to rewind the fgs monster each turn. I do this because that makes the fg essentially only picking up 1 card a turn, which greatly handicaps them. Idk who else likes doing that, but I enjoy it quite a bit.
I used to do this but then I realized FG pick up more than 1 card per turn... (or that's what I thought) I think I saw that on a FG with no hourglasses or sundials or any item that allowed him to pick an extra card.
yeah, thats one of the powerful things about them, and why they can have such a big deck, but if you reduce them to only picking up one a turn, then they cant take advantage of thier huge deck.
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Re: Scaredgirl's (almost) NON-UPGRADED False God Rainbow https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1615.msg33799#msg33799
« Reply #119 on: March 06, 2010, 09:50:18 am »
I'd like to expand on Castroviz's FG list (my thoughts in bold). I personally don't use this deck but have played a lot of FG games.

Just wondering Scaredgirl, what is your percentage tested against ALL the gods including the "new" ones ( Octane, Obliterator, Dark Matter, etc.)? ::)
I know you asked her... but I hope my experience helps... Obviously it all depends on the god, here are my thoughts on each one I've fought:

Chaos Lord:  Medium dificulty, win most battles.Kind of a mixed bag depending on his mutations but yeah i would consider him a medium FG. Don't forget he has some steals in his deck

Dark Matter: Hard Don't remember ever beating him, his black holes are just to much for our pillars... need more quantum with this one. Terrible FG for a rainbow, you won't win many against him

Destiny: Don't recall fighting this one yet. One of the easiest if not the easiest FG. Has rewinds and Eternity so be aggressive with your draws since he will always rewind you back.

Divine Glory: Impossible to beat IMO with this deck... his swords and control cards are hard...Not impossible just very improbable. What makes him harder is all the miracles he packs. Pretty much need him to only draw 3 Glory's all game or manage to build up your bone wall and constantly feed it.

Elidnis: Easy, has some congeals but I've never lost to him. Not too tough but has a lot of creatures and if he quints a forest spectre round 1 or 2 the going can get tough. Also late game he will have a ton of bonds

Ferox: The easiest of all in my opinion. Never lost to him and dont see how he could win ;) An easy FG that has no control but he can rush pretty quick so if you don't get any quick shielding this game can end quickly.

Firefly Queen: Easy God but can beat you. If you get a bad draw you could end up getting beaten, other than that, I've won most fights..Pretty much agree with this assessment. Also watch out for his fire lance. Watch your HP and how much fire quanta he has

Gemini: Haven't fought him. An easy FG but will get out momentumed phase spiders and dragons which can be a pain. He does pack 6-7 TU's though so be careful mutating your creatures and try to get rid of the dragons ASAP. Having 6-7 dragons on the table is not fun

Graviton: Haven't foiught him. Very tough. You need to find your rain of fire moderately early. Even if you get your Oty out early quinted he can't eat anything. Also has Gravity pull so you have to quint him. One way around it is if you have your Eternity out and a sundial you can throw out your FQ and your Oty. The FG will target your FQ and unload all his gravity pulls on him. With your sundial out the FQ won't die and you can rewind her next turn. Just try to get your Oty quinted ASAP because he will eventually find more

Hermes: Won once, lucky draw vs unlucky draw of him and bad AI, but other than that a really hard god. Hard FG. Pretty much need an early quinted oty. Sometimes you can get lucky and all he plays are fire spectres for a while so you can get your oty out later. With him WATCH his fire quanta. You can think the game is won but he can nuke you and kill you in one turn. He can throw 6 fire lances at you at once and if he has over 60 Fire quanta adios.

Incarnate: Easy, but only fought him once. Easy FG, has very limited creature control, lots of boneyards but you should be able to handle him with your bonewall and fire shield.

Miracle: Long but easy battle, only lost once due to bad draw. One of the easier FG's. Sometimes will get too many dragons out really early to stop though

Morte: Medium difficulty but beatable... Medium FG but can be a pain. He seems to always draw an early Arsenic vs me for some reason. Also has a bunch of plagues and 4 boneyards.

Obliterator: Impossible in my opinion although I've read  you can beat him with this deck somewhere in the forums...Tough FG. Gotta steal his Pulvy. If you don't and his Pulvy is out and stays out you're finished

Paradox: Haven't played him much but beat him twice.. (i think) Pretty easy FG. Has no control at all. Rain of fire and bonewall will eat him up. Although he sometimes will get out of control early and you will find yourself against a Ray of light or Deja Vu at  11/11 TU'd 4-5 times within the first 7-8 rounds.

Rainbow: Hard MoFo, unbeatable in my opinion. Not unbeatable but really need to get lucky. Easier then Dark Matter and Divine Glory but that's not saying much

Scorpio: Dont remember this guy. I consider him a medium FG now BUT with my old deck that was similar to this one he was really hard. Has lots of poison and will throw out puffer fish, phsylia's and ulithirads. This deck doesn't have too much shielding so i'm guessing this would be a very tough FG. Also has an arsenic so pray it doesn't come out early

Seism: Hard, need more quantum, I've lasted long battles with him and I know it can be beat but you need a lot of luck and play your pillars one buy one due to his control cards...Hard FG but at least he can't use his Pulvy. Steal his Diamond Shield if you can

Octane: with this deck i would consider this an almost impossible win. His gases and his eagle eyes will kill you in short order.

So, other than the gods I consider unbeatable with this deck you have I would say a 75-90% chance of beating the easy/medium gods, depending on your strategy and draws. I think your estimates are a bit high here. I by no means am a good player but i've played many FG games and have tracked most of them and i run a fully upped deck. 

 

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