(1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide

[Rember]

That'd be pushing the light quanta tbh. I'd go with 3-4 sancs and 1-2 SoGs (or different cards entirely).

[silux]

upped vampire heals 4 and also damages, but it's too brittle.
Shard of serendipity will be a great card for this kinf of deck, but now CCYB needs a rework.
AI now is better than 1.24 version and many gods seems to behave just as anti-CCYB!

[Veliq]

I've been trying out variations, but haven't really found a solution.  I did dump one SoG and added in an Improved Heal.  It's 7turns worth of healing in one shot, using mana I always have, and it does help with the EMs a bit.  Not quite enough to make up for the losses, but, until something better comes along...

I don't have a black nymph, but have been using the blue nymph variant.  Tried the entropy nymph, found that three Improved Antimatters are more efficient (18 vs 21 ).  Besides, it's much easier to save 6 at once, and I rarely need more then three uses anyway.  If I had the shadow nymph, that would change, for the combo...

I have run into trouble being carded against the couple of FGs with reflective shields

[kirchj33]

Here's what I've been using, works better than other stuff I've seen so far, but there are definitely other decks that are better farming options available now:

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[onetwentysix]

I've tried entropy and dark nymphs, but they don't really work well at all.  Nymphs are too fragile to use without a quint, and they're so expensive for a rainbow deck, even with supernovas.  If you can survive to get 14  and a quint on the nymph, you were probably going to win to begin with; otherwise, you'd have likely drawn an antimatter or two much sooner and been benefiting from it already (three chances at an antimatter, vs. 1 chance to get a nymph and 2/3 chances to get a quint).  Nevermind that the 14  won't come from supernovas; you need it all from your mark and towers.  Likewise, you run into problems adding a dark nymph; you need to add more cards to the deck, and the dark nymph doesn't have an analogous card you can swap it for.  You also need to add a quint; one for the destroyer, one for the entropy nymph, and one for the dark nymph. 

Nymphs are also a problem if you draw them off the bat; you're sitting with a card in your hand that you might not be able to play for 10 turns, which is a huge pain if you're in a low quanta situation from a bad starting hand.  Drawing two permafrost shields, a nymph, and fractal is not a lot of fun.

The only nymph that I can think of that really works well with this deck is an air nymph, which just replaces the FFQ and is great for creature control, permanent protection, and EM timing.  The 20 damage from the unstable gases and the 6 attack is a nice bonus, too.  A death nymph might also work in place of an aflatoxin; it costs 3 more to pull off, 4 more to do it twice, and its HP is high enough to potentially survive a round of CC without a quint.  I'd rather use an aflatoxin, or not use either, though.

Anyone else have success integrating nymphs to CCYB?  I've got a bunch of them that I'd love to use, but I can't really seem to fit any in, other than the air nymph.

[black rat]

hey guys,
i found this one, and because i already have a couple of this cards upgraded (maybe 50%), i think about trying this deck. but bevor i start upgrading this deck... is it still usefull?
i just have 2 sogs, so i would play 2 sans and perhaps a bond? apart from this, does this deck still have a decent winrate?
or is there a better rainbow-deck? one with similar cards?
i would hate to start upgrading from the beginning

[Chapuz]

hey guys,
i found this one, and because i already have a couple of this cards upgraded (maybe 50%), i think about trying this deck. but bevor i start upgrading this deck... is it still usefull?
i just have 2 sogs, so i would play 2 sans and perhaps a bond? apart from this, does this deck still have a decent winrate?
or is there a better rainbow-deck? one with similar cards?
i would hate to start upgrading from the beginning

It is still usefull and has an acceptable win rate, but I recommend you reading the Fake God Efficiency Study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.0.html) first.

[black rat]

thank you
looks very helpful!
i will try to build the small one in next weeks

[DigitalHero07]

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It's the deck I am using and it works very very very well

Spoiler for Hidden:

I've tried entropy and dark nymphs, but they don't really work well at all.  Nymphs are too fragile to use without a quint, and they're so expensive for a rainbow deck, even with supernovas.  If you can survive to get 14  and a quint on the nymph, you were probably going to win to begin with; otherwise, you'd have likely drawn an antimatter or two much sooner and been benefiting from it already (three chances at an antimatter, vs. 1 chance to get a nymph and 2/3 chances to get a quint).  Nevermind that the 14  won't come from supernovas; you need it all from your mark and towers.  Likewise, you run into problems adding a dark nymph; you need to add more cards to the deck, and the dark nymph doesn't have an analogous card you can swap it for.  You also need to add a quint; one for the destroyer, one for the entropy nymph, and one for the dark nymph. 

Nymphs are also a problem if you draw them off the bat; you're sitting with a card in your hand that you might not be able to play for 10 turns, which is a huge pain if you're in a low quanta situation from a bad starting hand.  Drawing two permafrost shields, a nymph, and fractal is not a lot of fun.

The only nymph that I can think of that really works well with this deck is an air nymph, which just replaces the FFQ and is great for creature control, permanent protection, and EM timing.  The 20 damage from the unstable gases and the 6 attack is a nice bonus, too.  A death nymph might also work in place of an aflatoxin; it costs 3 more to pull off, 4 more to do it twice, and its HP is high enough to potentially survive a round of CC without a quint.  I'd rather use an aflatoxin, or not use either, though.

Anyone else have success integrating nymphs to CCYB?  I've got a bunch of them that I'd love to use, but I can't really seem to fit any in, other than the air nymph.

I've never tested the deck with a blue nymph because I don'y have one D:
A grey nymph must be a great choice, and the green and the black nymphs would be added too, but the green nymph would be useless...
Do you think that the deck is better with a FFQ, a Blue Nymph, a Grey Nymph or a Black Nymph?

[Chapuz]

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It's the deck I am using and it works very very very well

Spoiler for Hidden:

I've tried entropy and dark nymphs, but they don't really work well at all.  Nymphs are too fragile to use without a quint, and they're so expensive for a rainbow deck, even with supernovas.  If you can survive to get 14  and a quint on the nymph, you were probably going to win to begin with; otherwise, you'd have likely drawn an antimatter or two much sooner and been benefiting from it already (three chances at an antimatter, vs. 1 chance to get a nymph and 2/3 chances to get a quint).  Nevermind that the 14  won't come from supernovas; you need it all from your mark and towers.  Likewise, you run into problems adding a dark nymph; you need to add more cards to the deck, and the dark nymph doesn't have an analogous card you can swap it for.  You also need to add a quint; one for the destroyer, one for the entropy nymph, and one for the dark nymph. 

Nymphs are also a problem if you draw them off the bat; you're sitting with a card in your hand that you might not be able to play for 10 turns, which is a huge pain if you're in a low quanta situation from a bad starting hand.  Drawing two permafrost shields, a nymph, and fractal is not a lot of fun.

The only nymph that I can think of that really works well with this deck is an air nymph, which just replaces the FFQ and is great for creature control, permanent protection, and EM timing.  The 20 damage from the unstable gases and the 6 attack is a nice bonus, too.  A death nymph might also work in place of an aflatoxin; it costs 3 more to pull off, 4 more to do it twice, and its HP is high enough to potentially survive a round of CC without a quint.  I'd rather use an aflatoxin, or not use either, though.

Anyone else have success integrating nymphs to CCYB?  I've got a bunch of them that I'd love to use, but I can't really seem to fit any in, other than the air nymph.

I've never tested the deck with a blue nymph because I don'y have one D:
A grey nymph must be a great choice, and the green and the black nymphs would be added too, but the green nymph would be useless...
Do you think that the deck is better with a FFQ, a Blue Nymph, a Grey Nymph or a Black Nymph?

This is too outdated. Now Osiris has Catapults, some FGs have FoFos and I don't know when other changes on FGs have been implemented since the CCYB era. You need at least 2 PAs to make it work better.

[ralouf]

Since the FG now kill their AM'd creature the deck will not work anymore. Or not as good as it used to be at least.
Plus SN nerf really hurts the deck, this deck was very good due to turn 2/3 ice shield + HG + Quinted golem.

Not mentionning that SoFo is now OP.

[Annele]

Since the FG now kill their AM'd creature the deck will not work anymore. Or not as good as it used to be at least.
Plus SN nerf really hurts the deck, this deck was very good due to turn 2/3 ice shield + HG + Quinted golem.

Not mentionning that SoFo is now OP.

Is now OP? Since when was is not?