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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg352705#msg352705
« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2011, 02:00:11 pm »
Hey tttt why is darkness not included in the deck?? and also whats the minimum for me to have upped to use this deck effectively against FGs
If a card is not in the deck, it's not there because it doesn't offer an improvement.
The more upgraded cards, the better, but basically you have to up all the cards, or at least a significant amount. If you don't have the cards, try some unuped decks for FG farming.

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg352733#msg352733
« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2011, 03:00:07 pm »
Improved Steal was / is used by some people, but it's pretty situational, easily becomes a dead card, and you have a god damn Pulverizer anyways. Liquid Shadow is also in the same boat, used either on an enemies's Antimattered creature, creature with a powerful ability (Gravity Nymphs, for example, but you're not winning against that God anyways), or a huge Lava Destroyer for EMs.

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg352735#msg352735
« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2011, 03:07:03 pm »
Steal CAN be handy against certain gods. IE graviton, obliterator in case of early, unprotected pulvy. Its especially handy in case you don't get an early pulverizer.
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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg352788#msg352788
« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2011, 05:25:41 pm »
You make this deck much more effective adding two momentum cards

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353053#msg353053
« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2011, 06:27:03 am »
On the nymph thing - if you want overall consistency, you want 2 copies of the card in the deck. Which means 2 nymphs (entropy ones). So you get a dead card there. I like the 3 AM variant, I have  an entropy nymph but I don't think I'll ever use it.
1 dead card is worth it if the first one pretty much guarantees you victory imo. ;)

In fact I'd even think I'd rather have 2 entropy nymphs than 2 Permafrosts...

Also, why is everyone talking about Fog/Dusk/Skull shield? Gravity shield has saved me more times that I care to think and makes Akebono, Osiris, and Lionheart amongst others, a piece of cake. You block all those early pesky dragons/abyss crawlers/archangels etc whilst your shards outheal the smaller creatures. Ok, it might conflict with pulverizer, but it's only a mere 3 grav quanta...

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353061#msg353061
« Reply #77 on: June 18, 2011, 06:58:40 am »
I'm thinking about dropping my Jade Shield for a Gravity, actually. Anyone else feeling underwhelmed by the Jade Shield lately?

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353091#msg353091
« Reply #78 on: June 18, 2011, 08:01:03 am »
I'm thinking about dropping my Jade Shield for a Gravity, actually. Anyone else feeling underwhelmed by the Jade Shield lately?
I play a variant with Aflatoxin, so I like the safety of having a third shield to set up the lockdown faster. Jade also helps a bit against annoying PC FGs like Eternal Phoenix and Dream Catcher, since their creatures are small enough that Jade blocks a whole bunch of damage.

Gravity Shield will cause complications with Antimatter, if I recall correctly. It will block Antimattered creatures if their HP is at least 6.
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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353093#msg353093
« Reply #79 on: June 18, 2011, 08:03:37 am »
Question :  :death nymph?
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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353101#msg353101
« Reply #80 on: June 18, 2011, 08:26:44 am »
Question :  :death nymph?
Aflatoxin is easier to achieve a lockdown with (it doesn't require the extra :death quanta to bring out and activate, is not susceptible to CC, and you rarely need to use it more than once. If you wanted actual hard CC, then Oty is an option. It will put some strain of :gravity quanta, though.
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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353114#msg353114
« Reply #81 on: June 18, 2011, 09:33:43 am »
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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353196#msg353196
« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2011, 03:16:54 pm »
I play a variant with Aflatoxin, so I like the safety of having a third shield to set up the lockdown faster. Jade also helps a bit against annoying PC FGs like Eternal Phoenix and Dream Catcher, since their creatures are small enough that Jade blocks a whole bunch of damage.

Gravity Shield will cause complications with Antimatter, if I recall correctly. It will block Antimattered creatures if their HP is at least 6.
Very good points, I'd forgotten about Antimatter. Pain in the ass in my Graviton-specific variant.

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg353508#msg353508
« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2011, 05:28:19 am »
I play a variant with Aflatoxin, so I like the safety of having a third shield to set up the lockdown faster. Jade also helps a bit against annoying PC FGs like Eternal Phoenix and Dream Catcher, since their creatures are small enough that Jade blocks a whole bunch of damage.

Gravity Shield will cause complications with Antimatter, if I recall correctly. It will block Antimattered creatures if their HP is at least 6.
Very good points, I'd forgotten about Antimatter. Pain in the ass in my Graviton-specific variant.
That's where my entropy nymphs come in :P

Keep the grav shield up until you can overwhelm them with antimatter then replace it with permafrost. I use it mainly as a temporary early-game saving device but it almost entirely blocks the damage of a few gods; particulary useful versus elidnis and her immortal growing creatures amongst the others I have mentioned. I suppose if you're only using spells though, that might cause some problems.

 

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