(1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide

[Higurashi]

Quanta is never an issue late-game unless you're playing denial FG's. Scarabs are a valid target if Osiris is too slow, and Pests are a popular way to own Decay; quite feasible.

Paradox and Miracle also have reflective shields. Fractal is -never- pointless, as high damage spikes can -always- be used to gain the upper hand, and most FG's have good targets (depending on your quanta).

[Xenocidius]

Quanta is never an issue late-game unless you're playing denial FG's. Scarabs are a valid target if Osiris is too slow, and Pests are a popular way to own Decay; quite feasible.

Paradox and Miracle also have reflective shields. Fractal is -never- pointless, as high damage spikes can -always- be used to gain the upper hand, and most FG's have good targets (depending on your quanta).

How are Scarabs a valid target? Unless you manage to somehow get 9 and a lot of before he brings out his Scarabs, as well as having a mostly empty hand, he'll either eat them immediately or produce Scarabs faster than you can eat them, and ultimately eat yours. Plus, you need the for Hourglasses and for Pulverizer.

Anyway, I just find a third Quintessence more useful than a Fractal when using Air Nymph.

[Higurashi]

You obviously only do it if you don't need HG's, and the other condition, which I mentioned, is that Osiris is slow. In other words, if he plays one or two Pharaohs and no Eternity, you can easily eat the Scarabs that come out, and then the Pharaohs. Sometimes you get to deny him of quanta with Pulvy as well, which will slow-roll his cards, and AM's can kill his Pharaohs off since he Catapults them.

This is all pretty obvious, and under the label of "sometimes" as pika formulated it. These moments of course add up when you measure FG by FG and have a certain impact on winrate. Not as much as the ridiculous burst of damage you get for one card, or the increased ability to counter Miracle/slower healing/CC, of course, but still worth mentioning.

[wavedash]

I'd rather have Mindgate than Fractal. But even after switching, I cut that out and just use the two Quints.

[hainkarga]

- nymphs. If you have any, go nuts.
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I listened to this advice and have been testing various nymphs for several hours since i had a bunch of those. Tried earth nymph which is really good for CC but racing with lava golem for earth quanta (and i guess octopus is just better). I hesitated to remove golems since my other damage resource was blue nymph that could have troubles against reflecting shield FGs. Tried adding 2, then 1 gravity nymphs but they are rather slow and racing with pulvy. Death nymph is rather dull, light / life nymphs doesn't suit the deck, golden nymphs sounded good and i had 2 of those but i didn't bother since its cost & effect are expensive for CCYB, fire nymph could be nice to boost my golems but then again they are quinted, it could be situationally good to kill enemy creatures. I would use entropy nymph if i had one for sure.

So i used:
- Aether nymph to support all other creatures and she has a fair amount of AP. Also protects antimattered enemy creatures if the FG is able to get rid of them.
- Black nymph to use as a cool combo damage source with AM and she is awesome for removing undesired abilities from enemy creatures. Can also use on your own golem after growing it fairly if you take a lot of damage (ferox ie).
- Air nymph as a cannon. And her unstable gases act as a protection for your other permanents against PC FGs.
- I think entropy nymph would be useful but i don't have any. Could just remove some AMs from the deck and put a nymph instead. Creates a havoc with black nymph.
- Fire nymph is also fair enough to kill enemy creatures and to boost golems.

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[TStar]

Fractal seems somewhat pointless without FFQ.

Fractal is the single most important card in the deck simply because of how many different ways it can be used.
1) Fractal allows you to set up your final turn perfectly for easy EM's.  That's because your weapon damage occurs after any first-row Perm healing.
2) Fractal is great to use on critters in elements you don't have much use for, namely etc.  I've pulled off several 8 turn wins against Ferox using an early Fractal on a Frog for example.
3) Fractal lets you get useful CC type critters to use against FGs, like Oty Ulitharid Maxwell's

Just a quick example of how I like to use my Fractal against each FG:
Akebono:  Usually never get around to using it, but if I can I use it as soon as possible on a Destroyer to get damage out faster.  Often times it takes too long to get 11 needed to get out the nymph + UG so I don't even bother planning for it.
Chaos Lord:  If I can't get a Pulvy out protected I like to Fractal the Werewolves.  They do wonders at helping to tear down Diss Field and as a fun bonus the AI loves to use Improve on 6|6 Werewolves often giving me some very useful critters.
Dark Matter:  If the AI plays out a nymph I'll save a Quint and Fractal an Oty to devour his field with.  It's quite fun.
Destiny:  Who cares, you don't even need to Fractal to win this one.  Occasionally I'll Fractal a Maxwell's if there are some good targets for me to go after.
Divine Glory:  Fractal a Destroyer, assuming I live long enough to even worry about it.
Dream Catcher:  Ideally I like to Fractal the Physalia but with all the BH's and QS's and the BE spam on pillars I generally find myself using it on Micro Aboms since that's all I have quanta to play out.
Elidnis:  Save a Quint, Fractal an Ulitharid.  Piece of cake.
Eternal Phoenix:  Fractal on his MPs to draw out CC and give me a repeatable source of damage.
Ferox:  Fractal on the Frogs is very effective.  Late game using it on the Dragons is fun too.
Fire Queen:  Pretty much use it on anything you want.
Gemini:  UG is great here so I usually don't bother using it except to set up for the EM.
Graviton:  Does it really matter?  HP too high for Otys and Firemasters gets RoF'd and eaten.  Generally just use it for a final burst.
Hecate:  PA your Permafrost and then Fractal the Voodoo Dolls with the Eclipse out.  Makes for lots of fun and free damage when you pop UGs
Hermes:  Can you Fractal PA Dim Shields?  No?  Good luck surviving long enough for it to matter then.
Incarnate:  Fractal Vampires is fun for tearing down Bone Walls. Same with Elite Skeletons.
Jezebel:  Destroyers usually.  Depends alot on what she has on the field.
Lionheart:  Usually Fractal for a final burst simply because unless you can deny grabbing Scarabs or Pharaohs is pointless.
Miracle:  Fractal a Pegasus and then wait and use their Dive for a huge final burst.
Morte:  Fractal a Condor then pop all your UGs and finish him off with 8 20+ attack condors for the OTK.
Neptune:  Generally I find hitting the Abyss Crawlers to be the best choice.
Obliterator:  Fractal for the final EM burst on whatever.
Octane:  Doesn't matter much once you PA a Pulvy isn't pretty much an autowin.
Osiris:  Hit a Scarab early if you can, otherwise save it up for the final push.
Paradox:  Usually save it for late game Destroyer Fractal
Rainbow:  Auto-quit.  Really is no Fractal use I've found that's helpful against the mass PC spamming.
Scorpio:  Save a Quint and Fractal an Ulitharid.  Coupled with the Purify in the deck and the Permafrost you can effectively lock down his ability to rack up fast poison.
Seism:  Depends on your quanta.  I like to hit Steel Golems if I can but I've used it on Gemfinders before just to keep the rolling in for Destroyer growth.
Serket:  It's fun to Fractal his Deathstalkers and troll him back.

[Jocko]

Fractaling early scarabs against pharaoh is incredibly fun. Oty's are good too, but since they are expensive, and most of the times you only need one or two, i don't do that much.

[Gocubbies1212]

I would consider +1 Jade Shield and -1 SoG (if you draw the Jade shield, you have almost 100% chance to beat octane

[siriosirio]

I would consider +1 Jade Shield and -1 SoG (if you draw the Jade shield, you have almost 100% chance to beat octane

you kann allways modify the deck at the best after oracle prediction 

[James Abrams]

So I noticed in the guide it says (referring to Hecate) "He can be nasty". Hecate is a female. 

[Gocubbies1212]

any updates to the current version due to the update?  there's tons less healing now...

[TheForbiddenOracle]

any updates to the current version due to the update?  there's tons less healing now...

IMO SoGs are no longer viable as healing, 5 Sancs should be able to work even without a mark (though obviously not as effective as before).