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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg331640#msg331640
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2011, 07:04:37 pm »
Very similar to my mod. :) I'll be trying this mod for sure after I finish my new statistics for I've GotP Time.

Thank you for this mod and statistics. It's about time CCYB get an update. ;)
Have you posted mod/stats? If not - pwease do :3

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg331850#msg331850
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2011, 11:43:00 pm »
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The Nymph variation. I haven't collected statistics for CCYB ever.
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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg331876#msg331876
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2011, 12:28:18 am »
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Hmmm... I have more but unfortunately I lost the deck codes it seems, and I can't really remember them

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg331887#msg331887
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2011, 01:03:50 am »
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Hmmm... I have more but unfortunately I lost the deck codes it seems, and I can't really remember them
For your current varient, I think you're missing your Queen? Where are you getting your  :fire to Fractal?
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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg331888#msg331888
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2011, 01:06:55 am »
I don't fractal with the queen anymore, the Fireflies just constantly get in the way too much... Fractal is mainly for bonewalls, and helps replace mindgate if it's at the bottom, because it has little difference, and might actually be better because I have the quanta to play it

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg332094#msg332094
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2011, 09:03:28 am »
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I think 1 sanctuary is too little, it's a game winner against Decay and Dark Matter.
Improved heal good for poison and EMs I guess? It's one of the better cards for the deck.
Jade Shield - this would be overall the best 3rd shield in the deck. I am also trying out Dusk as it uses available quanta, for Jade seems stronger.
Deck seems solid, if a bit too fat for my taste XD Don't you have any stats?

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg332107#msg332107
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2011, 10:02:23 am »
This is what I've currently built and am enjoying playing:

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EDIT: Thanks to winning an Air Nymph literally as I finished writing this post, finally allowing me to get rid of the FFQ (which just annoys me xD), I made the following modifications: -1 FFQ, -1 Mitosis, +1 Air Nymph, +1 Improved Dusk

True I no longer have any simple antimatter spells, but when I do get the nymph out, I also normally have it + shard of rediness + quint which is simply a game winner in most situations. For example, I beat Scorpio when I was on a poison count of 42 and still got an EM!

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The mitosis is the other reason for making SoR  more viable and not for a single specific use; if you get really lucky and get all the right cards to use it on a lava destroyer you'll probably win very easily: spam already high attack creature that can then grow. And if you don't get that lucky, you can always spam extra fireflies.

I tried working on a mitosis lava destroyer with readiness and quintessence deck but the number of cards involved makes it tricky and doesn't leave much room for anything else. Incredibly powerful if you pull it off though.

In another deck I tried, I slaughtered Miracle when I TU'd one of his light dragons and then spammed it whilst hiding behind my phase shields: I'm still convinced a Mitosis+SoR combo has good potential for an anti-FG strategy.

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg332313#msg332313
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2011, 06:04:28 pm »
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Congrats on the :air nymph! And :entropy? Oh boy! Take some stats pls and post!

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg332342#msg332342
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2011, 07:25:29 pm »
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I think 1 sanctuary is too little, it's a game winner against Decay and Dark Matter.
Improved heal good for poison and EMs I guess? It's one of the better cards for the deck.
Jade Shield - this would be overall the best 3rd shield in the deck. I am also trying out Dusk as it uses available quanta, for Jade seems stronger.
Deck seems solid, if a bit too fat for my taste XD Don't you have any stats?
I only tried it yesturday... and if you thought that was fat look below for my past decks (the one right belw). 40 cards ftw lawl. Also PA doesn't really seem necessary, though at times I would KILL for one (Seism and Lionheart to be exact, though protected permafrost has saved me sometimes)

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg332449#msg332449
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2011, 10:22:23 pm »
I keep going back and forth with a 35-36 card build.  Sometimes I think I need only 1 PA, then I end up going against Jezebel and Seism and decide I need another.  All I know is the 3rd Antimatter helps a lot in most cases.

Today, I'm going to try some variants with Unstoppable, Alfatoxin, and Jade Shield.  I'm not sure off the top of my head which FGs they'll help the most against or if they're necessary against those FGs.

@Noobiecakes: I'm going to see how I like these variations, but can I have some input of how you felt with those variations containing Unstoppable/Alfatoxin/Jade Shield?

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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg332471#msg332471
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2011, 10:44:18 pm »
I keep going back and forth with a 35-36 card build.  Sometimes I think I need only 1 PA, then I end up going against Jezebel and Seism and decide I need another.  All I know is the 3rd Antimatter helps a lot in most cases.

Today, I'm going to try some variants with Unstoppable, Alfatoxin, and Jade Shield.  I'm not sure off the top of my head which FGs they'll help the most against or if they're necessary against those FGs.

@Noobiecakes: I'm going to see how I like these variations, but can I have some input of how you felt with those variations containing Unstoppable/Alfatoxin/Jade Shield?
-Unstoppable is unnecessary. You don't have to worry about shield effects because your Pulverizer is going to do its job pretty well in most cases. (with the exception of Jade and Mirror Shield).
-Aflatoxin is again a nice touch, but it is not a key component of CCYB and rarely saves you against gods like Dark Matter, Graviton, or swarm gods (Osiris, FFQ) anyways. A PA'ed Permafrost will do.
-Jade Shield is a shutdown for Decay, Hecate, and Octane (they have Steals and Decay has Siphon Life), but with a PA, a PA Permafrost will do you better against gods with Explosion; those gods usually have high damage creatures so Jade Shield won't make much of a different, while the freeze effect of Permafrost is HUGE. If you decide to play with PA, which I recommend (good for PA'ing Jessie's QTs and your own QTs against Seism), then take out Jade Shield, because your FFQ is using lots of  :life quanta already.
HOWEVER, if you're using the Nymph variation, then it is your choice if you want to keep Jade Shield or not; you have no  :life usage at all if you go with the Air Nymph instead of FFQ. Also take out Fractal, obviously.


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Re: (1.272) Evaluation of Contemporary CCYB - statistics and farming guide https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25878.msg332495#msg332495
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2011, 11:22:41 pm »
I disagree, unstoppable is mainly to get through bonewall because otherwise it is EXTREMELY tough to get damage through them

 

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