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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg368181#msg368181
« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2011, 04:56:16 am »
Just a random idea, but any chance to fit Hope? those fireflies could be put to use against some FGs...
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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg368188#msg368188
« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2011, 05:19:11 am »
With the combination of 6 Sanctuaries eating up your Light quanta, Hope's high cost, and the unreliability of having sufficient Fireflies on the field, it doesn't seem like a good idea. Search the forums for "Skittles" if you want a FFQ / Hope FG Rainbow. It's outdated, though.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg370914#msg370914
« Reply #98 on: July 24, 2011, 10:41:55 pm »
 Hm, my win loss ratio is fairly terrible with this deck. Out of 100 games, I've only one three (twice to Decay, once to Neptune.)

 I even had half the deck upgraded from my previous Rainbow deck . Am I just unlucky or is this most people's going rate? I'm in the process of raising 9000 to switch to supernovas, but I've lost more than I've lost about 3000 just playing, and have only won 2 upgraded cards, so even if I sold them I'm still down ~800.

 Any help for the new guy? The only thing I've done that isn't on the list is added a Purify to help against the poison decks. It works great, but I usually end up decking out now instead of losing outright.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg370933#msg370933
« Reply #99 on: July 24, 2011, 11:55:10 pm »
Hm, my win loss ratio is fairly terrible with this deck. Out of 100 games, I've only one three (twice to Decay, once to Neptune.)

 I even had half the deck upgraded from my previous Rainbow deck . Am I just unlucky or is this most people's going rate? I'm in the process of raising 9000 to switch to supernovas, but I've lost more than I've lost about 3000 just playing, and have only won 2 upgraded cards, so even if I sold them I'm still down ~800.

 Any help for the new guy? The only thing I've done that isn't on the list is added a Purify to help against the poison decks. It works great, but I usually end up decking out now instead of losing outright.
It is abnormal to be decking out this often. I think what you are doing is drawing with the Hourglasses whenever you can. This is bad.

Because this deck does not have an Eternity, you cannot afford to mindlessly use your Hourglasses. Instead, use them until you have drawn enough healing (Sanctuary, Antimatter) to keep you alive. Then stop drawing with them and let your Pulverizer and creatures whittle the False God down.

Played correctly, this deck should have a winrate of about 17%.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg370956#msg370956
« Reply #100 on: July 25, 2011, 12:53:33 am »
 I should have been more clear, sorry. I rarely deck out with this, except against poison heavy decks. I added a purify to the mix since I've lost quite a few to poison, but because poison decks usually have bonewalls that can skyrocket up, I tend to deck out against them instead of succumbing to poison damage now. I don't deck out often, I just meant that I changed my poison losses to deck out losses.

 I stop using my hourglasses around 10 cards or so, since if I can't win in the next 10 turns, I wasn't going to win anyway. I've played another 50 games since my last post, and have only won 2 more times. I did win a supernova so that's a step toward having 6 of them, but this deck is draining my funds much better than it is adding to them (including won cards.)

 I just don't have to luck to pull this deck off.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg370978#msg370978
« Reply #101 on: July 25, 2011, 01:56:56 am »
In upgraded CCYB, I stop drawing around 14-18, depending on the situation.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg374055#msg374055
« Reply #102 on: July 31, 2011, 07:57:45 pm »
Yup the general rule of thumb is to stop drawing when you're safe and have damage out on the board.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg374865#msg374865
« Reply #103 on: August 02, 2011, 09:04:53 pm »
Well again, the problem is not decking out. That was just a small comment about adding the purify. The problem is my loss rate is much higher than what I've read others have had with this deck, and I've sunk too much money into it to do much else other than lose 95% of my games.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg376110#msg376110
« Reply #104 on: August 06, 2011, 02:24:49 am »
Mmmm, if you play it right you shouldn't have a problem.
Then again, don't expect much from unupped FG farmers.

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg394802#msg394802
« Reply #105 on: September 18, 2011, 10:10:46 am »
Im currently 1-12 with this deck and not spinning a card means (forgetting the cost of making it) I am 296 electrum down, not a big deal but considering im losing 12x as much as im winning and the account has very little electrum... Am I just being really unlucky or is this what I am to expect from this deck?

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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg394829#msg394829
« Reply #106 on: September 18, 2011, 01:02:37 pm »
Maybe you're unlucky. But an unupped FG farmer will be quite streaky, so you'd have to prepare a lot of electrum before you grind. I used to prepare 500 electrum before grinding, maybe lose around 400 'till I win a card.
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Re: (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23978.msg394833#msg394833
« Reply #107 on: September 18, 2011, 01:08:58 pm »
Im currently 1-12 with this deck and not spinning a card means (forgetting the cost of making it) I am 296 electrum down, not a big deal but considering im losing 12x as much as im winning and the account has very little electrum... Am I just being really unlucky or is this what I am to expect from this deck?
Well in actual stats its supposed to be 1-6, I suppose you were just unlucky with the matchups, but if you just started it you just need some time to get used to it (i.e what FG to play FFQ against, which times you should draw, etc).

 

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