(1.24) CC? Why bother?

[Cobra]

it takes me like 20min  but it was fun.

[TheForbiddenOracle]

Did you purposely drag that match as long as possible??? I don't see how you could take that long against Ferox and he had no shield...

[TheIdioticIdiot]

Did you purposely drag that match as long as possible??? I don't see how you could take that long against Ferox and he had no shield...

he didn't get his pulvy early enough, so he was stuck to use his eternity to rewind and prevent deckout

[bruce 1337]

lol 1200 quanta

[rakankrad]

I've made a few changes to the deck. I'd like to know what everyone thinks of these changes.

I felt that having no Light card was making that quanta useless. I originally used Improved Miracle (which helped a lot for EM'ing or to stall when I had not too optimal draws) but I didn't feel like it was the best use for that quanta. Crusader, on the other hand, is useful for as long as it's on the field. Quint it, then either Endow pulvy, Eternity or an enemy weapon (lobo comes to mind).

Mindgate, well, everyone knows what it's good for (rewind fodder / making gods play against themselves).

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[Newbiecake]

I wouldn't put that Mindgate there. 12  quanta usage +2 per use of Duality. Also, two PA is too much. In fact, I wouldn't recommend any, because most of the gods with Explosions are almost unbeatable anyways, and Seism has too many creatures for CCYB to handle. CCYB is a well balanced offence/ defence deck. I wouldn't recommend relying only Mindgate and Destroyers. Remove the Eternity because you won't deck out if you spent your  quanta on an Air Nymth or FFQ. Finally, maybe one more Hourglass.

[Jappert]

I actually would bring a PA.
- Seism is a walkover, seriously. He doesnt have to many creatures at all, just get yourself a shield and AM.
- Makes dreamcatcher doable if you have a quinted destro out and you protect your shield.
- Makes Eternal Phoenix easy once you protect your shield and AM dragons.
- Makes Rainbow and Graviton at least a bit more doable.
- Helps vs Octane.
- Helps vs Divine Glory (protected shield also).

Don't underestimate your chances vs harder gods!

[TheIdioticIdiot]

^^
only problem with PA is that the chance you draw it in time is too low to count on...
for those gods, I just stick with my jade shield (for seism, I just play QTs one at a time, he will run out of EQ eventually)

[TheForbiddenOracle]

I actually would bring a PA.
- Seism is a walkover, seriously. He doesnt have to many creatures at all, just get yourself a shield and AM.
- Makes dreamcatcher doable if you have a quinted destro out and you protect your shield.
- Makes Eternal Phoenix easy once you protect your shield and AM dragons.
- Makes Rainbow and Graviton at least a bit more doable.
- Helps vs Octane.
- Helps vs Divine Glory (protected shield also).

Don't underestimate your chances vs harder gods!

-Seism has multiple EQ, if you only have 1 PA what are the odds you would draw it
-Dreamcatcher, just use a Jade shield, better than permafrost in this situation, and you could get lucky with mindgate and get a control card to get rid of the BE
-Eternal Phoenix is not easy in the least because if your within firing range he will Fire lance/thunderbolt you to death, Jade shield works here as well as permafrost
-Graviton has 4 explosions so it doesn't hurt that much, and you need a lot of PA to stop Rainbow from taking them all with steals and explosions permafrost and pulverizer are needed and if he starts blowing up shards i quit
-Octane, jade shield is the perfect counter
-Divine Glory, again PA would help but what are the odds that you will draw it. The freezing is necessary on his flying glories though.

[Jappert]

I don't use Jade Shield, neither does the original CCYB.

You keep talking about odds but I seem to get the PA when I need it quite often. Against most gods you can protect it with a weapon or hourglass aswell so no problems there. I beat Et. Phoenix over 60% with my deck and most wins are thanks to permafrost + PA + AM. My win % vs Octane is even higher, even though I don't use a reflecting shield.

I was just stating reasons why I'd bring PA, and it saved my butt many times. You do whatever you want.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

^^
CCYB in 1.26 (and in 1.27) is practically fail without jade shield imo

[Jappert]

^^
CCYB in 1.26 (and in 1.27) is practically fail without jade shield imo

I disagree except that I fail at Decay ALOT more. For Octane I hardly ever miss it.

**edit**
I just tried Seism without PA and with Jade Shield.
I lost the game because I didn't have the quanta (due to earthquakes ofc) to fractal play more then 1 destroyer. I also didn't have the quanta to have my fireflies rewinded and played.
I turned out to be one turn short to get his hp down. Defenses were no problem ofc!

Ofc this is just one game, I miss my PA already though.