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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg154925#msg154925
« Reply #720 on: September 09, 2010, 02:41:56 am »
How do you guys tackle Scorpio? I don't think I've won a single match against him post-Puffer Fish buff.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155002#msg155002
« Reply #721 on: September 09, 2010, 05:22:14 am »
Its definitely a harder fight, but the key from what I've seen is that you need to be lucky enough for him to play arctic dragons fairly early and you get anti matters on them. 26 healing is quite huge, and that plus your SoGs lets you survive a lot of poison. If all he draws is puffer fish and physalias for a while though its almost impossible bc the poison builds up too fast and you cant heal through it.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155058#msg155058
« Reply #722 on: September 09, 2010, 08:59:20 am »
How do you guys tackle Scorpio? I don't think I've won a single match against him post-Puffer Fish buff.
This deck doesn't have cc, so its almost impossible. Otyugh decks are already crushed by the creatures being made poisonous, so scorpio is actually incredibly difficult now. I guess only ROL hope stands a fair chance now?

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155066#msg155066
« Reply #723 on: September 09, 2010, 09:34:14 am »
How do you guys tackle Scorpio? I don't think I've won a single match against him post-Puffer Fish buff.
This deck doesn't have cc, so its almost impossible. Otyugh decks are already crushed by the creatures being made poisonous, so scorpio is actually incredibly difficult now. I guess only ROL hope stands a fair chance now?
I've added a Purify into my deck- wait until about 20 has racked up due to Deadly Poison and Chrysoara/Pufferfish and then cut it back up to +2. It does make it a bit easier- you get a temporary stall for healing, where the poison grinding you down doesn't overcome the SoGs

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155094#msg155094
« Reply #724 on: September 09, 2010, 11:45:20 am »
Here's the version I'm currently using:

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Reasons behind the changes were as follows:
-1 fractal +1 aether gate:  This deck doesn't have many creatures in it to begin with and the ones you do have will often be untargetable.  Between this and not having enough quanta or having too many cards in hand to use it effectively, fractal was probably the only card in the original deck that I often found myself not using often.  Mindgate makes a good replacement for this that can still give you more creatures to play and adds a bit more flexibility to the deck(or yet another target for your opponent's permanent control to have to take out). 

-1 Hourglass +1 Eternity:  Being able to draw cards quickly is always nice but especially with a relatively small deck like this, decking out could be an occasional problem.  2 hourglasses seems to be enough and eternity helps greatly with the deckout issue.  Of course the low number of creatures in the deck is a problem here again but you can either save one lava destroyer for this or hope to grab one of your opponent's with mindgate.  And of course you can always use the eternity earlier in the game to deal with their creatures as well(though that would go against the "no cc" theme of the deck)

-1 FFQ +1 Air Nymph:  Got the nymph a couple weeks ago and been looking for a good home for it ever since.  This deck already has quintessence in it anyway so the nymph fits nicely in here and gives a good source of burst damage to finish your opponent off(or another option for sneaking in some cc if you don't mind cheating  :D )

-1 shard +1 Improved Heal:  The continuous healing from shards is nice but sometimes, especially early on before you can get your shield out, a stronger burst heal can be useful as well.  5 shards + 2 antimatter still leaves plenty of continuous healing ability.  More importantly, Improved Heal gives a much better chance of getting a mastery win rather than falling 1hp short with just miracle. 

Overall, the original deck is extremely strong, especially against fg's so it's hard to make anything more than minor improvements on it but so far, I've been happy with these changes.

Hodari

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155101#msg155101
« Reply #725 on: September 09, 2010, 12:01:57 pm »
And just after that last post, I managed to beat Fire Queen..despite not drawing a single tower for the first 7-8 turns :)

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155210#msg155210
« Reply #726 on: September 09, 2010, 04:54:00 pm »
for some reason I had beaten scorpio only once ever, then when the pufferfish changed I beat him again easily. weird

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155292#msg155292
« Reply #727 on: September 09, 2010, 08:32:59 pm »
Scorpio isn't a huge problem for me - a purple nymph (if you have one) would help against the big guns to help heal past healing. Permafrost Shield is crucial - they can also freeze Pufferfish, though not Physalias.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155658#msg155658
« Reply #728 on: September 10, 2010, 09:59:55 am »
How do you guys tackle Scorpio? I don't think I've won a single match against him post-Puffer Fish buff.
mind flayer

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155715#msg155715
« Reply #729 on: September 10, 2010, 02:08:33 pm »
Scorpio isn't a huge problem for me - a purple nymph (if you have one) would help against the big guns to help heal past healing. Permafrost Shield is crucial - they can also freeze Pufferfish, though not Physalias.
What does purple nymph replace in the deck?

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg155899#msg155899
« Reply #730 on: September 10, 2010, 10:49:30 pm »
Scorpio isn't a huge problem for me - a purple nymph (if you have one) would help against the big guns to help heal past healing. Permafrost Shield is crucial - they can also freeze Pufferfish, though not Physalias.
What does purple nymph replace in the deck?
Obviously antimatter.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg156051#msg156051
« Reply #731 on: September 11, 2010, 01:28:35 am »
Scorpio isn't a huge problem for me - a purple nymph (if you have one) would help against the big guns to help heal past healing. Permafrost Shield is crucial - they can also freeze Pufferfish, though not Physalias.
What does purple nymph replace in the deck?
Obviously antimatter.
But then the number of quints feels too few...

 

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