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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151469#msg151469
« Reply #672 on: September 03, 2010, 07:47:02 pm »
Sorry about that, here is what I have so far

(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=4sj&deck=z44saz24vn58vz25faz25i95oj5rlz2621622z36qqz66rnz66u377fz27q5)



I am missing miracle completely, was hoping to simply win one already upgraded from miracle, but I can't seem to beat him at all, he just chains miracle and I run out of cards and lose.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151481#msg151481
« Reply #673 on: September 03, 2010, 08:25:02 pm »
Firefly Queen first, since only the elite version can produce fire quanta and the main strategy of the deck is produce a lot of fire quanta and spam Lava Golems. Then I would do Ice Shield , since the 1 extra damage block really helps with your healing. Then go with Antimatter since it reduces its cost by 2 and makes it easier to play earlier and helps you survive against dragons. Then the Quantum Pillars. Then just upgrade in whatever order you like. I'd recommend an Aflatoxin, since it makes the easy gods a lot easier.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151486#msg151486
« Reply #674 on: September 03, 2010, 08:28:37 pm »
hmm...

upgrade ice shield after you've upgraded all towers
it add +1 :water to the cost but -2 damage reduction, most FGs will have swarm with 2+ damage critters, you WILL want to have permafrost (deck's MVP)

the 2nd pulvy and the 3rd hourglass take priority over everything else because their ability cost reduction is critical
2 hourglasses are more than enough in a 34-card deck imo (i'd suggest either protect artifact or jade shield in its place)

quint and antimatter fall between those above and below

as for fire queen, my variant ditch it completely but if you're keeping her, remember that golems are not entirely reliant on fire queen but elite queen produce 4|2 :fire generating fireflies so you can either upgrade it asap or upgrade it later

last to upgrade: lava golems, fractal

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the variant i'm using also ditch miracle for heal instead, +20HP is nothing to scoff at...sure MAX-1HP is better but the difference between 12/15 :light to 2/3 :life is huge

edit: i disagree with the poster above about fire queen (FQ) priority because my own testing shows that FQ is the weakest link in the deck but it always helps to have 1 Elite Queen which can be use in other rainbow
though i think you might want to hold on upgrading FQ because as you fight FGs, you will win it from the spin eventually

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151491#msg151491
« Reply #675 on: September 03, 2010, 08:34:43 pm »
Thank you both for responding, it will help me a ton when deciding what to upgrade next.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151500#msg151500
« Reply #676 on: September 03, 2010, 08:43:33 pm »
last to upgrade: lava golems, fractal
How is Lava Golem last to upgrade? For the exact same quanta cost, you get an extra burst of damage, and a huge burst of damage with Fractal. It was the first card I upgraded after SoG's and Supernovas!

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151527#msg151527
« Reply #677 on: September 03, 2010, 09:06:15 pm »
last to upgrade: lava golems, fractal
How is Lava Golem last to upgrade? For the exact same quanta cost, you get an extra burst of damage, and a huge burst of damage with Fractal. It was the first card I upgraded after SoG's and Supernovas!
Thats if you still use Fractal.  I usually have my Golems quinted so I have to Fractal enemy creatures anyways.  Its only two more damage.  Definitely not HUGE!!!

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151531#msg151531
« Reply #678 on: September 03, 2010, 09:08:08 pm »
I just beat graviton and then seism right in a row, two of the ones I struggle with the most. I do believe that aflatoxin helped quite a bit with seism, I decided to throw it in to test it out.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151534#msg151534
« Reply #679 on: September 03, 2010, 09:10:03 pm »
I just beat graviton and then seism right in a row, two of the ones I struggle with the most. I do believe that aflatoxin helped quite a bit with seism, I decided to throw it in to test it out.
Always use Aflatoxin.  While not used to its full potential here it's still a great card.

One of my favorite decks against FGs is a rainbow with a base of... Otyugh, Aflatoxin, Jade Shield.  Theres more spells and some heavy hitters but Otyughs and Aflatoxins = Total Control

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151537#msg151537
« Reply #680 on: September 03, 2010, 09:11:03 pm »
last to upgrade: lava golems, fractal
How is Lava Golem last to upgrade? For the exact same quanta cost, you get an extra burst of damage, and a huge burst of damage with Fractal. It was the first card I upgraded after SoG's and Supernovas!
Thats if you still use Fractal.  I usually have my Golems quinted so I have to Fractal enemy creatures anyways.  Its only two more damage.  Definitely not HUGE!!!
Huge burst of damage was with Fractal, of course. Without fractal, it's an extra burst - over the course of a few turns, it does matter a little.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151541#msg151541
« Reply #681 on: September 03, 2010, 09:12:48 pm »
Always use Aflatoxin.  While not used to its full potential here it's still a great card.

One of my favorite decks against FGs is a rainbow with a base of... Otyugh, Aflatoxin, Jade Shield.  Theres more spells and some heavy hitters but Otyughs and Aflatoxins = Total Control
I would love to see that deck too.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151548#msg151548
« Reply #682 on: September 03, 2010, 09:18:19 pm »
as for modifications, could you take out the antimatters and add purple nymphs instead, or take out one antimatter and add 1 purple nymph?
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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg151550#msg151550
« Reply #683 on: September 03, 2010, 09:19:51 pm »
as for modifications, could you tqake out the antimatters and add purple nymphs instead, or take out one antimatter and add 1 purple nymph?
Only 1 Purple Nymph, and take an Antimatter. Two Purple Nymphs are overkill. Trust me, I use a Purple Nymph in mine.

 

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