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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg142528#msg142528
« Reply #612 on: August 20, 2010, 01:17:32 pm »
I've been lucky on this one: Dark Matter used most of his Black Holes during the first 5 turns. I then could cast 3 supernovae in a row and put down a shield, a quinted destroyer and aflatoxined his nymph.

after a few turns with 0 quanta (some other Black Holes from his hand and nymphs), his field was filled with cells. he then began to eat his own creatures – including his damaged armaggios, angels and nymphs ! – with his unstoppable otyugh, which I antimattered as soon as I reached 6 entropy quanta.

left without nymphs, he couldn't prevent my second destroyer to be fractalised for the kill.

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and Firefox crashed while I was uploading this image on imageshack, before I released the final blow. there goes my chance to win a gravity nymph :-[

(http://imageplay.net/de/view/m7Gbd81049/darkmatter)

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg142546#msg142546
« Reply #613 on: August 20, 2010, 01:43:33 pm »
cant win nymph from FG, you'll only get upgraded Relic in its place
the only way to acquire nymph is by winning a tourney or lucky spin via the daily oracle

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg142589#msg142589
« Reply #614 on: August 20, 2010, 03:25:53 pm »
Heh I've noticed oty's do that lately too. I'd never really seen them eat each other but when I played graviton yesterday, he had a momentum'd oty which ate literally all his other creatures (including his other oty's) except for his lone momentum'd fire eater. He left all the malignent cells on his side alone though, so once he ate them all I just AM'd both the graviton and the oty and won easily :P.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg142694#msg142694
« Reply #615 on: August 20, 2010, 06:21:47 pm »
Tried Miracle/heal instead because Chimera can't heal you in an emergency but miracle and heal can. I thought that meant you can't take out a shard for chimera. I'm sure I just had bad luck while using chimera though though. Also, I thought Jade Shield only helped vs Octane and Decay. Jade shield would have to replace the 2nd alfatoxin, hmmm. . This is what I tried.
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560 5uu 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 71c 77f 77f 7ak 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7q5 7q5 80h 80h 80ithere is a chimera

edit- TEsting both ways to EM, so:
Sometimes Chimera and Liquid shadow are (replaced by) Improved Heal and Improved Miracle. Sometimes Jade Shield is replaced by Aflatoxin becasue my previous version had room for both JAde Shield and a second Aflatoxin and I'm not sure which one to take out. (It was not an EM deck unless I repalced the Jade shield* with a heal)
I ususally used this:
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 71c 71c 77f 77f 7ak 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7q5 7q5 80h 80h 80i I sometimes used PA instead of JAde shield or heal becaue I thought PA helped vs more gods 

Edit: difinitly just bad luck with chimera verion, older verion having plenty too.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg142945#msg142945
« Reply #616 on: August 21, 2010, 12:14:34 am »
Chimera can't heal you, miracle can. I'm sure I just had bad luck though. Jade shueld would have to replace the 2nd alfatoxin, hmmm. This is what I tried.
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560 5uu 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 71c 77f 77f 7ak 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7q5 7q5 80h 80h 80ithere is a chimera
Sometimes Chimera and Liquid shadow are Improved Heal and Improved Miracle.
Sometimes JAde shield is Aflatoxin #2
I am not sure what you are talking about.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg143053#msg143053
« Reply #617 on: August 21, 2010, 02:51:17 am »
Heh he's saying sometimes he uses the other cards instead of whats in the deck he posted. He's not saying that a chimera and ls are actually imp heal and miracle, just that sometimes he uses those instead. I use the exact deck he posted though except mine has LS upped, but that doesnt really matter as you always have more than enough darkness by the end :P.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg143415#msg143415
« Reply #618 on: August 21, 2010, 03:42:48 pm »
This deck is amazing..even not fully upgraded it is awesome.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg143465#msg143465
« Reply #619 on: August 21, 2010, 06:06:29 pm »
It seems like I need Aflatoxin to beat Decay so prefer a version with 2. If I want the EM verion it looks like there's only room for 1 aflatoxin( I don't want to take out Jade Shield) but Aflatoxin does things like this:

hmmm winrate vs masteries...

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg143519#msg143519
« Reply #620 on: August 21, 2010, 06:55:57 pm »
I've been using this deck to grind FG for quite a long time now, and after multiple tweaks, here is the version I prefer:

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 71c 77f 77f 77i 7ai 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7k2 7q5 7q5 7q5 80h 80h 80i
just got a 7 wins streak today, including EM victories against Seism and Dream Catcher :D

thanks again Amilir!

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg143554#msg143554
« Reply #621 on: August 21, 2010, 08:13:25 pm »
I've been using this deck to grind FG for quite a long time now, and after multiple tweaks, here is the version I prefer:

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 71c 77f 77f 77i 7ai 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7k2 7q5 7q5 7q5 80h 80h 80i
just got a 7 wins streak today, including EM victories against Seism and Dream Catcher :D

thanks again Amilir!
I like PA. Should be useful against those pesky PC gods. I like Aflatoxin but doesn't that defeat the point of a deck without CC? The improved heal seems useless (wouldn't another shard be better? Improved heals are always inferior to SoDs right?)  The loss of FFQ means bone walls will stall you forever and fire quanta will be quite short when you plan on fractalling.

I just want to say this deck rocks! The only deck I have that stood against scorpio and has a decent chance to win on everything else. Dark matter still annoys me to death though :(

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg143683#msg143683
« Reply #622 on: August 22, 2010, 12:40:55 am »
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I like Aflatoxin but doesn't that defeat the point of a deck without CC?
yes, you lose the theme of the deck but it makes easy gods even easier, which is good for grinding ^^;

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The improved heal seems useless (wouldn't another shard be better? Improved heals are always inferior to SoDs right?)
Heal is here for the sole purpose of EM.

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The loss of FFQ means bone walls will stall you forever and fire quanta will be quite short when you plan on fractalling.
true, it takes longer to break those bone walls (usually -2 per turn with one destroyer and the pulvy) but I rarely find myself decking out because I couldn't fractal in time for the kill. if need be, I sometime fractal a cell only to tear the wall down and open the way for the destroyer.

and I agree, the win ratio against Dark Matter is the lowest, even lower than against rainbow for me  :(

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg143733#msg143733
« Reply #623 on: August 22, 2010, 03:06:45 am »
Since I have a Purple Nymph, should I put it in and take out an improved antimatter?

 

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