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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg119749#msg119749
« Reply #180 on: July 21, 2010, 08:43:36 am »
The original deck on the first page does not work as good as displayed. You get steamrolled by all FGs because they have too many creatures and you have no CC you can count on to arrive whatsoever.

40%-50% at max.
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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg119761#msg119761
« Reply #181 on: July 21, 2010, 09:12:31 am »
Currently 48-36 with this build with 34 EM's (swapped a bond for a shard).  For some reason i can't seem to beat FFQ with this deck as i am 1-7. And i'm also 0-3 vs Paradox. This annoys me since those 2 are usually cake walks with all my other rainbow variants. Don't know if i've just been unlucky.

Oddly enough i am 3-0 vs Rainbow. For some reason i just seem to get the right draws to survive and TU'ing werewolves seems to work.

Rastafla is right that the lack of CC makes this a tough deck to play and i think in the long run 50% probably is about as high as it will go. But with that said i do like playing with this deck.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg119764#msg119764
« Reply #182 on: July 21, 2010, 09:16:42 am »
you are probably unlucy cause i win allmost all my games vs FFQ and paradox with this deck

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg119800#msg119800
« Reply #183 on: July 21, 2010, 11:29:56 am »
Oddly enough i am 3-0 vs Rainbow. For some reason i just seem to get the right draws to survive and TU'ing werewolves seems to work.
your lady luck is a tranny MrBlonde because from my testing this deck winning vs FFQ/Paradox is about the same as a more traditional control rainbow variant. i'm not sure about the probability of winning vs Rainbow because i'd rather skip it (low probability of winning cards from spin if you're lucky enough to beat her) but i figured its a lot worse considering you dont have eternity to avoid deckout

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120192#msg120192
« Reply #184 on: July 21, 2010, 07:06:53 pm »
Oddly enough i am 3-0 vs Rainbow. For some reason i just seem to get the right draws to survive and TU'ing werewolves seems to work.
your lady luck is a tranny MrBlonde because from my testing this deck winning vs FFQ/Paradox is about the same as a more traditional control rainbow variant. i'm not sure about the probability of winning vs Rainbow because i'd rather skip it (low probability of winning cards from spin if you're lucky enough to beat her) but i figured its a lot worse considering you dont have eternity to avoid deckout
My luck can be pretty wacky at time. You want to hear another stat? Out of the 9 times i've beaten Rainbow (yes i've only beat Rainbow 9 times lifetime) i've won 8 cards. So go figure on the low probability on winning cards against him. The eternity wouldn't help this deck because basically if Rainbow fully gets up and running you don't have a chance. I've just been able to outrush Rainbow. Getting an early FQ or Lava Golem and a Fractal is key (also finding your antimatters). Getting Rainbow to waste his steals/explosions on other perms rather then your perma or pulvy also is key. I get as many werewolves as i can in my hand from fractal and fill the board. They get rid of all the CC.

But i probably have just been really lucky against Rainbow and very unlucky against FFQ and Paradox. Against FFQ my Perma's never show up and Paradox has been a blessing/TU monster in the early rounds.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120236#msg120236
« Reply #185 on: July 21, 2010, 07:45:00 pm »
One thing that has helped me some against both paradox and gemini is to play an unprotected 7/1 golem if they start to get dangerous creatures on their side (10 att+ for paradox or momentum'd anything for gemini). They often will spam all their TU's on your 7/1 destroyer instead of their own because if its ability, even though they cant use it.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120239#msg120239
« Reply #186 on: July 21, 2010, 07:46:22 pm »
Amillr just a note might want to put the antimatter table in the spoilers on the first page.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120263#msg120263
« Reply #187 on: July 21, 2010, 08:06:32 pm »
KEY NOTE THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE:  The first deck posted is not the best twist it to your playing style look at some of the later decks, I think they're some of the best (pages 9-12 I believe).  I like to never have one of any card so I took out a few cards and tossed in a few more.  I realized I was missing Aflatoxin and tah dah I found a great deck that works amazingly for me.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120286#msg120286
« Reply #188 on: July 21, 2010, 08:25:16 pm »
My luck can be pretty wacky at time. You want to hear another stat? Out of the 9 times i've beaten Rainbow (yes i've only beat Rainbow 9 times lifetime) i've won 8 cards. So go figure on the low probability on winning cards against him.
not that strange tbh
actually, even though i keep saying how winning vs Rainbow is not that good, out of the handful of times i beat her with rainbow control, i actually won 2 graboids (the other 3 from Seism i guess)
but even with that lucky winnings i still stand by what i've said, Rainbow is too much of a hassle to deal with
just skip her unless you want a challenge

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120319#msg120319
« Reply #189 on: July 21, 2010, 09:00:42 pm »
Honestly I cant win with this deck.  Not even against the "easy" gods.  Im not making any mistakes, I never have the right quanta, I never draw permafrost until its too late, I never have enough to cast anything.  Maybe my luck is horrible but after playing 30 games I find ROL to be more consistent

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120336#msg120336
« Reply #190 on: July 21, 2010, 09:11:00 pm »
Honestly I cant win with this deck.  Not even against the "easy" gods.  Im not making any mistakes, I never have the right quanta, I never draw permafrost until its too late, I never have enough to cast anything.  Maybe my luck is horrible but after playing 30 games I find ROL to be more consistent
Funny thing is that every time i play RoL i can't win. I guess it's just one of those things. Anyhow i'm 55-39 now with 39 EM's (58.51% and 57.66% adjusted, 70.91% EM rate).

Kobis - i agree, typically Rainbow is not worth the trouble (also i've played over 2000 FG games so i know how much of a pain he is). It's a new deck though so i do like to see how well it fairs vs all the FG's. Besides with Rainbow it's pretty easy to see if i'm going to have a remote chance. What makes this deck viable vs other Rainbow decks is the quick amount of dmg that can be done with an early quinted golem and fractaled werewolves.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg120342#msg120342
« Reply #191 on: July 21, 2010, 09:19:12 pm »
Just wondering, what variation of the deck are you using Mr.Blonde? The only changes Ive made with mine is -1 SoG and +1 aflatoxin

 

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