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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg219824#msg219824
« Reply #948 on: December 09, 2010, 12:08:06 am »
This is the deck I use now:
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5p0 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 71c 77f 77f 7ai 7ak 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7q5 7q5 80h 80h 80iBefore I got the air nymph this was my favorite variant:
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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6u7 71c 74g 77f 77f 7ak 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7q5 7q5 7te 80h 80h 80iI'd say both are pretty similar in success, with the second giving more reliable EM's, but the first being a bit more interesting to play with :P simply bc I love my air nymph.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg219874#msg219874
« Reply #949 on: December 09, 2010, 01:24:09 am »
What's the liquid shadow for? My guess is it's to put on chimera for EM, or is it primarily a defense against antimattered creatures? What matchup does it help with? Or is it purely EM?

I'm playing around with various builds, I think the chimera matchup helps a lot more than FFQ in winning -- tbh I've been playing around with mindgate over fractal (which I don't know if it's worth it) and I barely if ever need FFQ, but without FFQ is fractal worth it?

Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg219912#msg219912
« Reply #950 on: December 09, 2010, 01:57:02 am »
What's the liquid shadow for? My guess is it's to put on chimera for EM, or is it primarily a defense against antimattered creatures? What matchup does it help with? Or is it purely EM?

I'm playing around with various builds, I think the chimera matchup helps a lot more than FFQ in winning -- tbh I've been playing around with mindgate over fractal (which I don't know if it's worth it) and I barely if ever need FFQ, but without FFQ is fractal worth it?
u sure have a knack for questions, i didn't make that variation, but i am pretty sure that liquid shadow is a utility spell
it can be used for EM
it can be used as lobo
it can be used on a antimattered creature to make it damage your opponent
and it's also a CC (ironically it's a variation of "CC? Why bother?")

without FFQ, fractal can still be used on cheap enemy creatures

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg219945#msg219945
« Reply #951 on: December 09, 2010, 02:25:10 am »
Yeah the LS is for all those things. I use/used it most to get a pretty much guaranteed em by using chimera+LS last turn, but if needed it can be used as lobo or on AM'd creature. It just depends the game and the situation. As far as mindgate vs fractal, I've tried both and I always prefer'd the fractal. A lot of people like mindgate too though so its really up to you. I like being able to fractal whatever is necessary to get that last burst of damage, or just to use it for other things like fractaling bloodsuckers against incarnate and completely locking down his field, or fractaling condors against morte (with my 2nd deck) and blowing up a couple unstable gasses, making massive condors. I still fractal lava destroyers sometimes too, just depends the game and quanta situatoins. Its very flexible and nonrandom unlike mindgate which can be very random :P. Also I found when I used mindgate I'd either get it going so late it didnt help much or I'd get it early and end up having it compete with quints for aether quanta.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg219959#msg219959
« Reply #952 on: December 09, 2010, 02:39:01 am »
1 shard down, 3-5 more to go. Oh btw, whats all these relic cards? I keep finding them when i win from t50.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg219976#msg219976
« Reply #953 on: December 09, 2010, 03:04:54 am »
Relics are cards which replace nymphs and mark cards on the spins. You cant win a nymph or mark card from playing anything, only from the oracle or tournaments, so when players have those cards in their decks they become relics on the spins. They dont do anything other than use quanta so you can sell them.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg219979#msg219979
« Reply #954 on: December 09, 2010, 03:09:20 am »
Now that fractal is being nerfed, it will hurt this deck a small bit but not as much as RoL/hope.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg220002#msg220002
« Reply #955 on: December 09, 2010, 03:41:27 am »
It might affect the ability to get an early tactical fractal, but its unlikely to affect the late game final punch fractal.

Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg220130#msg220130
« Reply #956 on: December 09, 2010, 11:17:25 am »
fractal nerf? what's the nerf?

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg220159#msg220159
« Reply #957 on: December 09, 2010, 12:32:58 pm »
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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg220291#msg220291
« Reply #958 on: December 09, 2010, 04:21:31 pm »
I stopped using Fractal a long time ago and replace it with a Mindgate.

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Re: (1.24) CC? Why bother? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9545.msg221860#msg221860
« Reply #959 on: December 11, 2010, 01:05:17 pm »
is it just me or im getting less cards then with rol/hope?

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