(1.24) CC? Why bother?

[geekz_always_win]

I have 2 elite otyughs from SG's Partially unupped rainbow deck, and I just need 3 more upgrades for this deck, Miracle, Fractal, and SoG. Should I sell them and then leave Fractal unupped? (one quanta makes very little difference), and the start farming FG?

It tears my heart out to sell my Otyughs, we went so far together

[JJ 52]

I have 2 elite otyughs from SG's Partially unupped rainbow deck, and I just need 3 more upgrades for this deck, Miracle, Fractal, and SoG. Should I sell them and then leave Fractal unupped? (one quanta makes very little difference), and the start farming FG?

It tears my heart out to sell my Otyughs, we went so far together

Go ahead and start farming without those 3 cards upgraded, the deck doesnt need to be entirely upped to work. Youll get enough electrum to up those cards soon pretty quickly.

[Nume]

so werw supposed to replace the one fractal with a mindgate???

Some people think so. I'm still not sold on it though. Every time I use mindgate, I end up having it compete with quints for quanta and it almost never gives me anything that is very useful, whereas fractal helps a ton on quite a few gods, especially ones with bone wall and/or miracle. It also fits a lot more with my liquid shadow/chimera strat for EM since it gives me the most damage at one time and thus a big chimera which will basically guarantee EM.

[kobisjeruk]

still keep fractal in my version, tried mindgate and didnt like it
(probably because my version uses 2 lava destroyers + 1 mind flayer)
mind gate gives your opponent another target for PC and CCs whereas keeping fractal until the last all out attack will keep your opp's hand full (when combined with aflatoxin)
each have their own pros and cons but i'd rather have something that i can control rather than hope i get lucky with the mind draw

[kintar]

so werw supposed to replace the one fractal with a mindgate???

There's nothing you're "supposed" to do. People have come up with many different variants of this deck, but I don't think anyone can say with certainty which one is the best. So feel free to make changes to suit your own preferences and playstyle.

[Tarutao]

Yeah, there's plenty of room to play around with cards in this deck. Mindgate is but one possibility of many.

I use 34 of the same cards as the OP, but I replaced the 6th Shard of Gratitude with a Bloodsucker (Dark and Death quanta to spare).  It sounds like a bad idea, but it's actually been pretty helpful in lowering the number of losses I get to some of the "easier" FGs (and surprisingly, it's gotten me a couple of wins against Dark Matter I wouldn't have gotten otherwise).

[Nume]

Yeah, there's plenty of room to play around with cards in this deck. Mindgate is but one possibility of many.

I use 34 of the same cards as the OP, but I replaced the 6th Shard of Gratitude with a Bloodsucker (Dark and Death quanta to spare).  It sounds like a bad idea, but it's actually been pretty helpful in lowering the number of losses I get to some of the "easier" FGs (and surprisingly, it's gotten me a couple of wins against Dark Matter I wouldn't have gotten otherwise).

This doesnt surprise me much as one of my favorite moves is to fractal incarnates bloodsuckers .

[Kuross]

This doesnt surprise me much as one of my favorite moves is to fractal incarnates bloodsuckers .

I did something similar with this deck- Fractaled a Devourer from Decay and used quanta drain against him ftw

[pikachufan2164]

Mindgate does make Elidnis and Scorpio (and also Dream Catcher if you can set up before Butterfly Effect hits the board) easier by giving you access to some more CC.

Being able to Congeal their Puffer Fish and take them out of the action for 4 turns is an absolute lifesaver.

[Wushu]

CCYB variation with 1 Purple Nymph and 1 Air Nymph:

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u7 6ug 77f 77f 77i 7dq 7dq 7gp 7gp 7ng 7q5 7q5 7q5 80h 80h 80h

Card Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hermes Incarnate Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Total

Win 0 0 3 3 1 0 4 1 2 5 3 0 0 6 1 6 7 1 0 2 0 0 2 1 48

Loss 2 3 1 0 6 2 1 3 1 2 0 5 9 0 3 0 0 0 1 1 1 4 5 2 52

Total 2 3 4 3 7 2 5 4 3 7 3 5 9 6 4 6 7 1 1 3 1 4 7 3 100

EM 0 0 1 3 0 0 3 1 1 0 3 0 0 6 1 5 5 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 32

Win/Loss- 48%
EM of Wins- 67%

[RavingRabbid]

Calculating a "better" percentage, Wushu's deck has 45,2 %.

[Wushu]

Calculating a "better" percentage, Wushu's deck has 45,2 %.

Umm I played 100 games, I won 48, that's 48/100, which is 48%, right?  I didn't normalize, because I had signifcant volatility in the matches I played, for instance, I saw Hermes 9 times, 4 out of the last 7 games.