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PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1064842#msg1064842
« on: April 28, 2013, 10:05:22 pm »
World Championship - TOP 8



RULES
- Best-of-7
 - You can only use each element once (using a pillar/pend/mark card doesn't count as using an element)
 - Elements used must be revealed after each game
 - Each 'Other' card can be used only once
 - Maximum 4 monos (if you include an element, you must have a minimum of 4 non-pillar/pend/mark cards in the deck)
 - Shards can only be used in games 2 and 5
 - Mark cards are limited to 1 of each per deck
 - Nymphs are limited to 2 of each per deck
 - Upgraded cards: 10




Top 8 - finished.
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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1065139#msg1065139
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 04:55:21 am »
Just to clarify a couple points:

1) "other" cards are still banned I assume?
2) Do you have to reveal used elements after a game?
3) If you are using a trio (or more elements... though given the rules you can't reliably use more than 1 trio) do you have to use 4 cards of the other two elements each or 4 total?  For example, is the following deck illegal?
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6x reflective shield
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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1065141#msg1065141
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 05:07:42 am »
Just to clarify a couple points:

1) "other" cards are still banned I assume? Each card once.
2) Do you have to reveal used elements after a game? Yes.
3) If you are using a trio (or more elements... though given the rules you can't reliably use more than 1 trio) do you have to use 4 cards of the other two elements each or 4 total?  For example, is the following deck illegal? 4 of each.
6x hope
6x reflective shield
3x flooding
3x aflatoxin
12x light pendulum
Added to original post. Also, increased maximum monos to 4 to allow more trios.

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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 12:46:48 pm »
I don't really understand the mark rules.

Are the following decks legal or not?

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6 entropy marks



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1 fire mark



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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1065189#msg1065189
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 01:17:13 pm »
I don't really understand the mark rules.

Are the following decks legal or not?

24 entropy pillars No, you used more than 1 entropy mark
6 entropy marks



23 entropy pillars No, same as above
6 entropy marks
1 fire mark



28 entropy pillars Yes, you only used 1 of each mark
1 entropy mark
1 fire mark



29 entropy pillars Yes.
1 entropy mark

Also you could play this:
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Is it also allowed to use 2 unupped nymphs and 2 upped nymphs in the same deck?
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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1065193#msg1065193
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 01:38:02 pm »
Is it also allowed to use 2 unupped nymphs and 2 upped nymphs in the same deck?
No, I just forgot to add the mark card exception in the rules section. Nymphs are max 2 upped/unupped.

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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1065699#msg1065699
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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1065700#msg1065700
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 05:29:49 am »
dragonsdemesne - 0
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Game 1: LOSS.  I picked a deck that is both strong and unusual for my style, predicting calin would pick one that fits his style.  He didn't, and his quanta draw was perfect, whereas mine was low.  And that was very bad in that matchup.  This one was in his favour, probably 2/3 or more his odds.

Game 2: LOSS.  He got epic rng, and I got 10/12 quanta in the top half of my deck.  With even a mediocre draw I'd have won this one.

Game 3: LOSS.  My overpillared deck failed to provide, and he had a pretty good counter anyway.

Game 4: LOSS.  I perfectly predicted him with a hard counter, but I drew so much quanta that I had no chance.  I had 75 earth quanta by about turn 8-9, but none of my 6 stoneskins... very sad.  Though admittedly, when you don't draw any spells, quanta piles up pretty quickly...

I'm not at all happy about how this match turned out.  Calin drew everything perfectly, with the exception of game 4, where he was a bit slow... but it didn't matter when he was facing a giant stack of pillars.  Games 1 and 4 my draws were so bad that I doubt Calin even knows for sure what I was playing.

edit: we compared our deck codes, and games 2 and 4 look in my favour, whereas games 1 and 3 look in Calin's favour.  Calin thinks he had the advantage in game 4, but I don't see it at all, especially as how it played out, a single stoneskin for me would've basically ended it.

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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1065989#msg1065989
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2013, 01:17:08 am »
Now that Laxadarap is now my lackey helper?

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2013, 12:45:17 pm »
Laxadarap just sent me this PM.

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As far as I can see, calins deck for round 3 was illegal.  He had a single (card removed for privacy), and the rules say that

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if you include an element, you must have a minimum of 4 non-pillar/pend/mark cards in the deck)

Since he had no other (element removed for privacy) cards, the deck is illegal.  Unless I am making a mistake (I pm'd Calin as well), you guys should resume playing at Calindu 3-1 Dragonsdemsne

I'd like confirmation from majofa on this.  Also, for the elements used in game 3, would they all be considered used up for future rounds for both of us?  For example, in round 3 I used a time deck.  Would time be banned to me in games 5-7?  Also, what about the elements calin had in his illegal deck?

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Re: PvP World Championship - Top 8 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48864.msg1066143#msg1066143
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2013, 05:46:17 pm »
Just to clarify a couple points:

1) "other" cards are still banned I assume? Each card once.
2) Do you have to reveal used elements after a game? Yes.
3) If you are using a trio (or more elements... though given the rules you can't reliably use more than 1 trio) do you have to use 4 cards of the other two elements each or 4 total?  For example, is the following deck illegal? 4 of each.
6x hope
6x reflective shield
3x flooding
3x aflatoxin
12x light pendulum
Added to original post. Also, increased maximum monos to 4 to allow more trios.

Calin had a trio, but one element only had 1 card.  "4 of each" implies that you need at least 4 cards for every element.  This is stated in the original rules, and again in this clarification, unless I am majorly derping.
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