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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048754#msg1048754
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2013, 08:49:37 am »
I'm playing because

1) I'm greedy and want the marks.
2) I don't have to deal with shards. I just don't like shards, not because they're OP or something, I just do not like them.
3) The games should be fun, assuming average RNG for all. Shards being in it is directly not fun, for me.

+1

Majofa worked hard on those rules and they looks very interesting, I think the PvP World Championship should be an unique event instead of having the same rules of the leagues (which you can play all year).
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048757#msg1048757
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2013, 09:10:32 am »
I'm playing because

1) I'm greedy and want the marks.
2) I don't have to deal with shards. I just don't like shards, not because they're OP or something, I just do not like them.
3) The games should be fun, assuming average RNG for all. Shards being in it is directly not fun, for me.

+1

Majofa worked hard on those rules and they looks very interesting, I think the PvP World Championship should be an unique event instead of having the same rules of the leagues (which you can play all year).

+1  8)

Blarp, stop arguing about those rules, they wont change now. And just for the record, me having no real access to unupped shards, cause i dont need them in events im playing!
Shards are meh and boring, i love the rules as they are, cause its means we have to think about our opponents in advance cause "what do they ban" "how can i make sure my ban get 2 votes" and the like... i hope no one here playing the elitist event of the game is arguing about specific cards.... cause you should be able to play with skeletons and guards, if its the only option available!

+ karma for majo, i hope that event works as good as you prepared it. guess some feeback after this event will help for coming WC´s, perhaps there you can find more influence @blarp.
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048758#msg1048758
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2013, 09:18:01 am »
I don't mind there being bans, just make it so shards have to be voted on in those bans and not banned by default.


And before the event starts is a good time to talk about the rules imo. Could easily be changed now, as the banning of shards isn't even written in them, just something majofa replied with.
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048759#msg1048759
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2013, 09:20:25 am »
oh btw, why do you have to win 3 tournaments to qualify to this event, but only place third in league? If that's equivalent difficulty, 3rd place in league should get way more marks than I believe none. Not saying anyone doesn't deserve it, just another example of how league rewards are off.
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048771#msg1048771
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2013, 01:57:23 pm »
I'm playing because

1) I'm greedy and want the marks.
2) I don't have to deal with shards. I just don't like shards, not because they're OP or something, I just do not like them.
3) The games should be fun, assuming average RNG for all. Shards being in it is directly not fun, for me.

+1

Majofa worked hard on those rules and they looks very interesting, I think the PvP World Championship should be an unique event instead of having the same rules of the leagues (which you can play all year).

+1  8)

Blarp, stop arguing about those rules, they wont change now. And just for the record, me having no real access to unupped shards, cause i dont need them in events im playing!
Shards are meh and boring, i love the rules as they are, cause its means we have to think about our opponents in advance cause "what do they ban" "how can i make sure my ban get 2 votes" and the like... i hope no one here playing the elitist event of the game is arguing about specific cards.... cause you should be able to play with skeletons and guards, if its the only option available!

+ karma for majo, i hope that event works as good as you prepared it. guess some feeback after this event will help for coming WC´s, perhaps there you can find more influence @blarp.

+1 too.

If it were for shards in this event, I would probably not care much because shards are just not fun.

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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048817#msg1048817
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2013, 05:58:59 pm »
Should we just play League Rules and allow every card??

Then you wouldn't even have to build any new decks.....

Pretty much this. All pvp events (except leagues) have deckbuilding restrictions. The best pvp players are those who can determine the meta within a set of restrictions, instead just play well established decks and hope your opponent doesn't have better RNG.

This event has restrictions. Who cares if it bans shards or not? Just play within the rules and stop complaining.

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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048847#msg1048847
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2013, 07:31:26 pm »
What happens in the (unlikely) event that there are less than 3 available elements (therefore making it impossible to use each element at most twice)?

For example, if our choices are
Choose:  :aether :air :darkness Ban:  :death :earth
Choose:  :aether :air :darkness Ban:  :death :earth
Choose:  :death :earth :entropy Ban:  :aether :air
Choose:  :death :earth :entropy Ban:  :aether :air

then only Darkness and Entropy will be legal.

Additionally, what happens if I use up all my elements before the match finishes? Autoloss?

E.g. if the available elements are  :aether :air :darkness, and I play

Game 1: Win with Mono-Aether
Game 2: Win with Aether/Air duo
Game 3: "Well, this match will be over soon", plays Air/Darkness duo, loses
Game 4: Loses with Mono-Darkness
Game 5: Now what? Autoloss? What happens if both players find themselves in this situation?

Additionally, how are points scored? Do you get x points for winning a match? Is there any difference between losing 2-3 or 0-3? Is it simply number of wins?
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048852#msg1048852
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2013, 07:39:11 pm »
So much drama when the championship has not even started, but well, first time this event is held after all..

I must be damm blind when I miss all these good rewards... *salivates*  When I first saw this, the rewards are not out yet, and I just forgot to check.. looks like I will just be in *Reconnaissance mode* then, looking at current drama and such. Too bad my awards also come after that  :'( , so cannot auto participate
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048861#msg1048861
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2013, 07:52:37 pm »
What happens in the (unlikely) event that there are less than 3 available elements (therefore making it impossible to use each element at most twice)?

For example, if our choices are
Choose:  :aether :air :darkness Ban:  :death :earth
Choose:  :aether :air :darkness Ban:  :death :earth
Choose:  :death :earth :entropy Ban:  :aether :air
Choose:  :death :earth :entropy Ban:  :aether :air

then only Darkness and Entropy will be legal.

Additionally, what happens if I use up all my elements before the match finishes? Autoloss?

E.g. if the available elements are  :aether :air :darkness, and I play

Game 1: Win with Mono-Aether
Game 2: Win with Aether/Air duo
Game 3: "Well, this match will be over soon", plays Air/Darkness duo, loses
Game 4: Loses with Mono-Darkness
Game 5: Now what? Autoloss? What happens if both players find themselves in this situation?

Additionally, how are points scored? Do you get x points for winning a match? Is there any difference between losing 2-3 or 0-3? Is it simply number of wins?

Your scenario is very, very unlikely. If it does happen, I'll just random.org up to 3-4 elements (of the ones not banned.)

If you can't legally play any more elements, then you lose all remaining games.

Points (total wins) are the first tiebreaker, then record, then head-to-head.
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1048903#msg1048903
« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2013, 09:01:11 pm »
 If you have a competition differentiated, why not a competition with differentiated shards too, some people are very convenient. maybe it was the fear of not knowing how to play with shards, or fear of some boycott the competition by some players.
is the policy that governs non-shards of the forum. but let's not prolong more this discussion.
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1049965#msg1049965
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2013, 06:46:12 am »
the rules don't say - are other cards allowed?
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Re: PvP World Championship - RULES https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47257.msg1049966#msg1049966
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2013, 06:56:39 am »
Sorry, no 'Other' cards.

 

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