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PvP World Championship - Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172163#msg1172163
« on: December 20, 2014, 07:36:25 pm »
PvP World Championship 2015
New Qualifying System

<<< CURRENT STANDINGS - 2018 >>>

Changes to the Elements the Game World Championships Qualification Standards

To better reflect the differences in achievements, starting with the 2015 season of the Elements World Championships, a points based system will be implemented.  This system not only allows us to better select which players have earned a place in the event, it also allows us to seed the players in the event and create a fair balance of players across groups.
Points will be distributed as follows:


EVENT1st2nd3rd4th
Leagues10531
PvP Events*10421
Trials101-3#00
Tournaments4210
*Score may vary depending on the number of players and diffuculty of the event. (1st place will always net at least 10 points)
#2nd place receives points based on the number of challengers minus 1.



The season will last from January - December.

Players who earn 10 or more points will be placed in qualification tier A.  Players who earn 5/6/7/8 to 9 points will be placed in qualification tier B.

If more than 32 players are in qualification tier A, those with the fewest points in tier A will compete in preliminary rounds of the World Championship, and no players will be taken from tier B.

If fewer than 32 players are in qualification tier A, those players automatically qualify to the World Championship.  A field of 16/20/24/32 players will be filled out via a qualifier among the players in tier B – whichever number is the smallest number that allows all tier A players and at least one tier B player into the event.

Championship points will be used to seed the players into groups throughout the event.

We ran the data for the three World Championship seasons so far in Elements history and determined that there would actually be an increase in the number of players in tier A under the new system compared to the number of players qualified in each year under the old system.
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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172165#msg1172165
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2014, 07:41:29 pm »
I TOTALLY don't agree to give 10 points to pvp-events winners, above all comparing them to leagues or trials.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks to Odii Odsen, theelkspeaks and me for this idea and system.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2014, 07:52:03 pm »
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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172170#msg1172170
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2014, 08:02:17 pm »

I TOTALLY don't agree to give 10 points to pvp-events winners, above all comparing them to leagues or trials.
I get that a pvp-event win seems less epic then winning trials or league if you wanna.. but up to this year, winning a pvp-event already meant getting in the WC.   Now idk if Majo is up for discussions to bring that total down to 9-8 or even less... But I am oki with the way it is.   Maybe give a few points to war winners would have been good too?  Not 10 of course though.  Otherwise, it's great work

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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172171#msg1172171
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2014, 08:04:14 pm »

I TOTALLY don't agree to give 10 points to pvp-events winners, above all comparing them to leagues or trials.
I get that a pvp-event win seems less epic then winning trials or league if you wanna.. but up to this year, winning a pvp-event already meant getting in the WC.   Now idk if Majo is up for discussions to bring that total down to 9-8 or even less... But I am oki with the way it is.   Maybe give a few points to war winners would have been good too?  Not 10 of course though.  Otherwise, it's great work

majofa is strongly opposed to team events including War giving points towards the individual WC.  I'm also in agreement with him on this.
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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172172#msg1172172
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2014, 08:07:00 pm »

Aside points for pvp events winner, I don't understand why points for trial runner up are based on the number of challengers minus 1. Trials challenger will face the same number of opponents in phase 2; the only thing to take into consideration is if the challenger is only one, that it would mean an automatic final for him/her.
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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172173#msg1172173
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2014, 08:14:05 pm »

majofa is strongly opposed to team events including War giving points towards the individual WC.  I'm also in agreement with him on this.
Of course you can say that some people wins free points as they do little or nothing and just get lucky to be in the right team.  But 0 for war which is our biggest event seems odd.   I would have like to see something like 4 points there... this way you can't qualify with only war but you can easily if you do well somewhere else.
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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172175#msg1172175
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2014, 08:19:48 pm »
Team events were left out because WC is based on individual achievements.

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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172210#msg1172210
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2014, 01:37:37 am »
I TOTALLY don't agree to give 10 points to pvp-events winners, above all comparing them to leagues or trials.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks to Odii Odsen, theelkspeaks and me for this idea and system.

Thanks for the work on this new system; it sounds clear and fair overall.  In regards to the PVP-event winners, I'm with Spike in that perhaps 10 points is too many (maybe even trials as well - it seems like League is a lot longer and more sustained commitment since it's at least 30 matches.). But in any case, I like the idea a lot - thanks for all involved with it.


 
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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172258#msg1172258
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2014, 10:50:49 am »
I think the list is fair. Most one-person pvp events is really hard, harder than bl,cl in my oppinion.

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Re: PvP World Championship 2015 - New Qualifying System https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57162.msg1172260#msg1172260
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2014, 10:57:52 am »
Second place in a Trials should only award points if it goes to a Challenger. As Masters have direct ticket to Final, coming second shouldn't be worth any points for them.

Also, there's the issue of Trials with only 2 challengers, where the second place awards 1 point even if the Challenger doesn't achieve anything in the Trial. So in that case no points should be awarded.

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2014, 02:15:40 pm »
I think that in trial only masters should receive points, 3rd in tournament, never will be the same thing of 4 place in leagues
especially the tournament with less than 16 players with half awards, points should be only to 1st and 2nd. the rest I'm ok and the idea is welcome.

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a correction, leagues must be so because the hall of fame.
1st 10
2nd 7
3rd 5
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