Starter Deck: Everyone makes ONE new account. They may sell and buy cards only. Players battle with these "starter" decks. A player automatically loses if they have a win or loss on their record (meaning they played an AI/PvP).I like this idea. However, for the sake of simplicity, we should just have starter deck vs. starter deck, so no selling or buying.
No Shields- ObviousUm...Lava Golem is a growth creature too....
No Weapons - Obvious
No Pillars/Towers - Obvious
Growth - Only the following creatures are allowed: Graviton Fire Eater, Forest Spirit, Fire Spirit, and Steam Machine
Surprise! - Must use a 2HKO/1HKO. No miracle allowed. (No Weapons)
No Shields- ObviousUm...Lava Golem is a growth creature too....
No Weapons - Obvious
No Pillars/Towers - Obvious
Growth - Only the following creatures are allowed: Graviton Fire Eater, Forest Spirit, Fire Spirit, and Steam Machine
Surprise! - Must use a 2HKO/1HKO. No miracle allowed. (No Weapons)
Post your tournament ideas here. Best ideas will be used for weekly tournaments. Thanks.wat about:
losing tournamentthis idea…is so damn creative! :))
change a main rule of matches, you are not going to win first, u are going to lose
so you have to kill yourself as fast as you can :}
It could be very funny :D
most of deck would be time but still i like it : ) antimater your own vampires to heal your opponent ; dlosing tournamentthis idea…is so damn creative! :))
change a main rule of matches, you are not going to win first, u are going to lose
so you have to kill yourself as fast as you can :}
It could be very funny :D
But everyone will pack all the bolts, antimatter and holy light in deck.
Starter Deck: Everyone makes ONE new account. They may sell and buy cards only. Players battle with these "starter" decks. A player automatically loses if they have a win or loss on their record (meaning they played an AI/PvP).This one is a great idea, but the new account can be done? Is not a multi-account something that is not allowed?
most of deck would be time but still i like it : ) antimater your own vampires to heal your opponent ; dYeah, I guess decking out with a 30-card hourglass deck isn't too hard. And you even have the anti-deck out card to foil opponents decking out.
No, we had a starter deck competition just now, and most people used new accounts for that.Starter Deck: Everyone makes ONE new account. They may sell and buy cards only. Players battle with these "starter" decks. A player automatically loses if they have a win or loss on their record (meaning they played an AI/PvP).This one is a great idea, but the new account can be done? Is not a multi-account something that is not allowed?
How about an Oty race? I really like that card!This would actually be pretty fun. I'd think we'd be seeing a lot of mono gravity with momentum in this kind of deck though. :P
Every player must have 6 otys in their deck, only 30 cards and no other creatures, weapons, artifacts, or shields. No upped cards. Only other thing they can have are spells so it would be a race to take out otys with removal/buff your own with cards like momentum so you could eat the other persons otys.
Newbie Again: You must use a new account!This would be a good time to cash in those few k tournament rewards. =)
Nope, EVERYONE would go :aether :gravity. Lightning + Parallel Universe + Quintessence + Mindgate = WIN!How about an Oty race? I really like that card!This would actually be pretty fun. I'd think we'd be seeing a lot of mono gravity with momentum in this kind of deck though. :P
Every player must have 6 otys in their deck, only 30 cards and no other creatures, weapons, artifacts, or shields. No upped cards. Only other thing they can have are spells so it would be a race to take out otys with removal/buff your own with cards like momentum so you could eat the other persons otys.
I kind-of like this idea.most of deck would be time but still i like it : ) antimater your own vampires to heal your opponent ; dlosing tournamentthis idea…is so damn creative! :))
change a main rule of matches, you are not going to win first, u are going to lose
so you have to kill yourself as fast as you can :}
It could be very funny :D
But everyone will pack all the bolts, antimatter and holy light in deck.
I like the idea of the suicide deck competition, but I would make this deck, and it would win every single time-What if your oppent uses that deck too? (or spashes deflags to kill your hourglasses?) ;D
Mark of Light
Precognition*6
Golden Hourglass*6
Sundial*6
Time Pillar*12
Hannibal's March - Use only ground creatures, no spells, only basic weapons (other element weapons)Can I assume no wings? 0.o
Yes, no wings. I didn't mention it because I was thinking...of course, people could destroy or steal it. But no spells, not quite the case, so wings would have to be out, too.Hannibal's March - Use only ground creatures, no spells, only basic weapons (other element weapons)Can I assume no wings? 0.o
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what i'm suggesting is similar, but the difference is that it is 50% upgraded4sa 4sa 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vk 4vk 4vk 5rg 5rg 5ri 5ri 5ri 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u3 6u4 6u4 6u4 7q0 7q0 7q2 7q2 7q2
Special Rules
- You can only use the deck below. Everyone uses the same deck and all other decks are illegal!
Fate Egg tournament v1.5I like the idea! Here is a deck I did some testing with for this idea:
the old fate egg tourney (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7266.0.html) is what drew me to the forum in the first place
if i'm not mistaken it has the largest number of participant up to the point
the old decklist is this:-Code: [Select]4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vk 4vk 4vk 4vk 4vk 4vk 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri
what i'm suggesting is similar, but the difference is that it is 50% upgraded
the decklist is something like this:-Code: [Select]4sa 4sa 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vk 4vk 4vk 5rg 5rg 5ri 5ri 5ri 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u3 6u4 6u4 6u4 7q0 7q0 7q2 7q2 7q2
special rule is the same as beforeQuoteSpecial Rules
- You can only use the deck below. Everyone uses the same deck and all other decks are illegal!
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vk 4vk 4vk 4vk 4vk 4vk 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55v 55v 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5rj 5rj 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 61r 61r 61r 61r
tested this yesterday against someone playing the same deck, i made a few changes, like a few more pillars, and the black holes and heals, but all 3 games were different, and fun. it is very affordable, so even the newbs could play.6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u4 6u4 6u4 6u4 6u4 6u4 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 716 77e 7dh 7jp 7mt 7q2 7q2 7q2 7q2 7q2 7q2 809
Take flight:You know, it's funny, the instant that Napalm posted her ideas I told her I was astonished that she didn't make an all Phoenix tournament idea, and then here it is :)
All creatures must be airborne.
Burnt in the air:
Only creatures allowed are Minor phoenixes, I happen to know someone who would love this event (definitely not the person one post above me :P)
A second chance:
Only creatures allowed are
-Gnome rider
-Damselfly
-Ash eater
-Skeleton
-Photon
Un-used:
Only creatures used may be flown weapons, only weapons allowed is Trident.
Only non-weapon/shield/pillar permanent allowed is flooding (this one is kinda mean)
The plague:
Only creatures are scarabs and frogs, only CC allowed is plague (cannot use scarabs ability)
Lol, Yeah it was Bound to happen!Take flight:You know, it's funny, the instant that Napalm posted her ideas I told her I was astonished that she didn't make an all Phoenix tournament idea, and then here it is :)
All creatures must be airborne.
Burnt in the air:
Only creatures allowed are Minor phoenixes, I happen to know someone who would love this event (definitely not the person one post above me :P)
A second chance:
Only creatures allowed are
-Gnome rider
-Damselfly
-Ash eater
-Skeleton
-Photon
Un-used:
Only creatures used may be flown weapons, only weapons allowed is Trident.
Only non-weapon/shield/pillar permanent allowed is flooding (this one is kinda mean)
The plague:
Only creatures are scarabs and frogs, only CC allowed is plague (cannot use scarabs ability)
Ye Olde Tournament!The only problem with this is that the original Fire Stall will reign supreme, it couldn't be stopped. Plus, most of the cards were changed at some point in development (ie Phase Dragon).
Only allowed to use cards that were in Elements when it first began.
-Fight as the warrior-Sounds like a 100% lance-deck tourney to me ... maybe some desperate attempts to stop it
-Only permanents and spells allowed
-No shards
-No flying weapons
-No nymph's tears
I had the same idea for long, figured the same effect. The lance (or any D) deck is easily loved by a deck with all 12 mirror shields in the game + the rest of the deck dedicated to countering Fahrenheit. But then it's 60 cards on 60 cards whoever decks first... real fun.-Fight as the warrior-Sounds like a 100% lance-deck tourney to me ... maybe some desperate attempts to stop it
-Only permanents and spells allowed
-No shards
-No flying weapons
-No nymph's tears
with earthquakes, discords, blackholes as the sole counter-deck.
I had the same idea for long, figured the same effect. The lance (or any D) deck is easily loved by a deck with all 12 mirror shields in the game + the rest of the deck dedicated to countering Fahrenheit. But then it's 60 cards on 60 cards whoever decks first... real fun.12 shields? 60 cards? ???
After some joking around in chat...rofl. I support this, but with the addition of no cards that can do damage to creatures (soft counters like antimatter would still be allowed)
Photon Wars!
Photons can be your only source of damage.
No shields can be used.
Eternity / Reverse Time is banned.
After some joking around in chat...When is something a source of damage? What if you used Voodoo + Gravity Pull + Basilisk Blood (perfect against Photons)? It doesn't damage on it's own :P
Photon Wars!
Photons can be your only source of damage.
No shields can be used.
Eternity / Reverse Time is banned.
Lone mark: no cards may be of your mark's elementThis would be loaded with lava golem decks and shrieker rush decks. that would be boring.
This would be loaded with lava golem decks and shrieker rush decks. that would be boring.All the more reason that one should counter the obvious decks.
No SpellsCould you list all creatures fitting that description? My first guess is none at all.
Only Pendulums
3 Different Elements
Creature must have between 5-8 Attack and 4-6 Defense
Creatures MUST have an ability that costs quanta
Un-Upgraded
Not quite. Toadfish tourney away!!!No SpellsCould you list all creatures fitting that description? My first guess is none at all.
Only Pendulums
3 Different Elements
Creature must have between 5-8 Attack and 4-6 Defense
Creatures MUST have an ability that costs quanta
Un-Upgraded
@Drobbit: I believe it's called booster draft. I agree, if we could figure out a way to do it quickly and efficiently it would be awesome. Though I'm not seeing that as being easy to find illegal decks.That's the name! I forgot completely...
Though booster drafts can hold more, a typical booster draft has around 8 players. Problem is if you go over that too much you'd have to break the tournament into different groups else the draft process would take forever. And if you break it down into groups, you'd need extra TOs to help out in the draft process. Though I like the idea, as booster and sealed were my favorite types of tournaments, I am not sure it would work for Elements as it stands.@Drobbit: I believe it's called booster draft. I agree, if we could figure out a way to do it quickly and efficiently it would be awesome. Though I'm not seeing that as being easy to find illegal decks.That's the name! I forgot completely...
Maybe if the Tournament Organizer chooses the packs and shows the list in the chat of each opened pack, the players could pick the cards like a booster draft. It needs more controll and maybe less players per tournament, but it certantly would be awesome.
"you win" deck competition. its like the event thing we did a while ago, but its much different: this time you face eachother, and not the ai!can you link to the earlier competition? I don't enter many competitions so I'm not sure what the "you win" deck competition was.
Celebration of Opposites:This has actually been done before. Discord/Black Hole and a Water/Fire control deck were basically the only two decks used.
Build a deck with cards of 2 opposing elements.
Each element must be represented by 5 cards at least, that means you cannot for instance build a deck that is all death but with 2 heals.
Ok, but what if the pair of elements are changed each round?Celebration of Opposites:This has actually been done before. Discord/Black Hole and a Water/Fire control deck were basically the only two decks used.
Build a deck with cards of 2 opposing elements.
Each element must be represented by 5 cards at least, that means you cannot for instance build a deck that is all death but with 2 heals.
Ok, but what if the pair of elements are changed each round?Then everyone would switch between the two decks I mentioned, or attempt to use an out-of-the-box deck that may or may not work.
Rock, Paper, ScissorsJust to point this out, the original plan was to take the winner of the RPS competition and host a tournament with the winning decks. However, the decks ended up being much less exciting than originally intended, and the tournament was canceled.
3 decks are posted (Rock, Paper, Scissors) all players use 1 of the 3 decks provided.
rounds are beast 2 out of 3.
you can switch decks with eh round of fighting.
Magic: the tournament.Oh, now that is a neat idea. If we want to get more specific, only :water :fire :death and :light can be used. :P
All decks must have 60 cards and may have no more than 4 multiples of each card. The 60 limit does not apply to pillars or pendulums.
Wouldn't :fire, :water, :life, :darkness, :light be better?Magic: the tournament.Oh, now that is a neat idea. If we want to get more specific, only :water :fire :death and :light can be used. :P
All decks must have 60 cards and may have no more than 4 multiples of each card. The 60 limit does not apply to pillars or pendulums.
Return of the Eggs: Fate Egg tourney, the sequel >:DA tourney that was setup so that it would actually be a fate egg tourney would be fun.
how about a FG tourney
u choose a FG, u r allowed to use only the unupped versions of the cards that FG has, u must have the same mark
Done as or fit as PvP EventsAlmost the same.
You are the Fake God
shopping spree:Too complicated on the short time frame we have. Sound good for a PvP Event instead.
Any 30 cards from any element free to start. Matching mark. No shields or rares allowed.
Go shopping, 50 points to spend:
Buy a card - 1 pt
upgrade a card - 5 pts
buy a shield - 5 pts
buy a rare - 7 pts
change mark - 10 pts
autowin a round - 41 pts
Tourney idea:When a tournament is upped you always have the option to use the unupped cards UNLESS the theme or rule specify the use of the upped card. Example no dmg spells allowed, no bolt spells, so chaos seed is banned but chaos power is not.
- Choice to have an unupgraded deck or an upgraded deck (any amount of upped cards)
- If you use an unupped deck, you start with 1 point
- If you use an upped deck, you start with 0 points
- Players still play best of 3.
- Players cannot change decks in between duels.
-Preliminary rounds would have to be best of 3.
Generic War Deck Tourney:You, sir, are a genius. I would totally compete in this tournament. :)
Must follow the below rules
6x nova
6x graboid
50% or more of any element of your choice
Generic War Deck Tourney:Don't forget discord!
Must follow the below rules
6x nova
6x graboid
50% or more of any element of your choice
Generic War Deck Tourney:You, sir, are a genius. I would totally compete in this tournament. :)
Must follow the below rules
6x nova
6x graboid
50% or more of any element of your choice
here is an ideaNah you'll just have some sort of rock-paper-scissors:
an out-of-control tournament
absolutely no controls of any kind, no PC, no CC (indirect or direct, so no fire shield, no ice shield, and so on), not evey quanta control (no blackholes, no discords)
everything else allowed
"Got to Keep it Original"I had the exact same Idea... :)
*You must use the original cards that were first in the game (list of cards introduced can be found in the official wiki in patch history)
You might be looking at that unofficial fan wiki that throws everyone off."Got to Keep it Original"I had the exact same Idea... :)
*You must use the original cards that were first in the game (list of cards introduced can be found in the official wiki in patch history)
But I cant find the patch history in the wiki ???, can you post a link please?
Double Rainbow All The Way:You could just use the original starter deck from the game. As I'm sure you know, they were almost identical to that but using the element of your choice's cards instead of Other cards.
Everyone must use one, and only one of each elemental pillars(quantum pillars are excluded). Everyone may only select one card(besides the pillars) of each element. The remaining 6 cards must be Other cards. No Shards or Quantum Pillars.
How about an Unupped tournament where everyone plays rainbows?That's called Beginner's League.
Double Rainbow All The Way:Sounds fun, but it seems like way too much luck.
Everyone must use one, and only one of each elemental pillars(quantum pillars are excluded). Everyone may only select one card(besides the pillars) of each element. The remaining 6 cards must be Other cards. No Shards or Quantum Pillars.
The Other Way 'round:newer players would either:
You choose the deck for your opponent. Must be mono, 30 cards, with 10 pillars, 10 creatures, and the rest whatever.
To counter this, I think it wouldn't be a horrible idea if almost every tournament implemented a rule that "each round you must use a different mark" or "different deck" or 'variant of 10 cards' or something like that.It would be too easy to cheat. Also, I don't think that really solves the problem. It would not be hard to make 4-5 decks of different marks with each deck as strong as any other of them.
I like one where before each match, each person must switch to the mark their opponent was planning on using.Seems like rainbows would dominate because they will always have use for their mark.
Not entirely sure what other rules should be in place, but the effect would be most noticeable if everyone was supposed to use a deck that, before the mark swap, was either mono or duo.
The "Perfect deck"This is interesting, and I think it would be balanced. For everyone that thinks permanent decks would suck, think dim shield/sundial stall. For everyone that thinks spell decks would suck, think firestall with heals.
Players must choose if they want:
-An all creature deck
-An all permanent deck
-An all spell deck
Pillars and Towers allowed in all decks.
I like one where before each match, each person must switch to the mark their opponent was planning on using.Seems like rainbows would dominate because they will always have use for their mark.
Not entirely sure what other rules should be in place, but the effect would be most noticeable if everyone was supposed to use a deck that, before the mark swap, was either mono or duo.
"awkward rushes..."lol.. I like... :time/ :gravity scarab+dune scorpion rush, anyone?
you must rush with one of the following elements:
:time, :water, :aether, :darkness, or :gravity
absolutely no "stall" cards allowed... no CC, healing, quantum denying (talking to you darkness), no PC (this one is for water, with their trident...)
all matches end after the 8th turn, if neither player has died, the winner is the one with the most hp left
Players are only able to use cards released with or after pendulums.too little creatures
I'm sure this will bit hard D:- Only :fire and :time are allowed, mark is free.Um no. Someone could claim all 4 fate eggs are the last 4 cards in their deck, win in 7-10 turns with an immolation rush, and no one would have anything on them. Besides, I don't even see the point of those rules...
- Must have at least 4 fate egg.
- NO SPELL and RARE cards.
"From Start to End, Everything's a Raging Battle!"Percentages haven't worked in the past because someone could use, say, 60% creatures and say all their creatures were in the back of their deck. Also, percentages can be troubling for the younger ones here.
75% of your deck must be creature cards.
"Royal Straight Flush"Difficult to enforce.
You must always play your lowest/highest cost creature card in your hand first that can be played (for example, I have a Photon, a Ball Lighting, and an Ash Eater. I have to either play Ball Lightning or Photon first if the rule is "lowest card", and if the rule is "highest card", then I have to play the Ash Eater first if I have 1 :fire , otherwise I move to the next highest card, the Photon or Ball Lightning).
EveryThing Aloud But UnUpgraded...unless it is your intention
Only :fire :gravity :earth :time
No Shields...
Only Aloud 15 Monsters And 15 Permanents..
ill think of more soon :)
finest hour!I don't mean to bash, but what is the point of this tournament?
you may only choose one element. all cards must be of that element. quanta producing permanents that can make alternate quanta are banned (no quantum pillars/towers or pendulums). you may only have one, A SINGLE , upped creature in your deck and one single dragon (cannot be the upped creature). other cards that are banned: mindgate, fractal, nightmare, butterfly effect, flooding, wings, sundial, fate egg, steal. parallel universe may only be used on your own creatures otherwise you're eliminated.
obligatory cards: SoG
Q and A
Q: why is fractal banned and PU isn't?
A: because it only makes a single copy instead of whatever amount of space is left in your hand.
Q: why can't i use nightmare?
A: because the opponent can't make use of any of the cards that you would copy in his hand (implying you are targeting lets say your own dark creature).
Q: thats the whole point!
A: it just breaks the set up.
Q: not every one has SoG.
A: I know and that's a little harsh, but i don't make...wait, I do. it's for the sake of making the game last wee bit longer. besides, almost anyone can get some by farming T50 long enough.
Q:why can't i use gravity to power my pulverizer that is earth?
A: exactly.
Q:what?
A: i made the rules so pulveriser is not being abused or else we'd all be playing it (i got myself a playset that i never use, go figure)
Q: I CAN HAZ UPPED PILLARS???
A: no. only a one card can be upped and it's a creature. if your smart, you'll think of upgrading an ash eater for extra :fire production.
Make all tournaments as restrictive as possible (quatrain was still my favourite) so all decks need to be built by you, original, and something you are unlikely to find in PvP. Banning just a couple of cards from every element leads to the 2nd best, rather than the best.i like it when it's more "open", sure ppl try to get around that, but all in all, I would rather take a whole bunch of cliched, but kind of unique decks, over fighting a ton of the same type of deck...
Personally I find it really cool to see how different people adapt to the rules. I don't know if other people like these restricted tourneys as much as I do but...more!
"I need them alive:"I like the idea! Have you tested it in Duel yet?
As soon as any player is down to 15 cards in his drawing pile, the player with most HPs left wins. If anyone kills his opponent before that, they lose. The objective is to hurt, not kill.
Obviously, the number 15 can be tweaked (maybe 12 might be better?). The end of the game will usually be at the beginning of someone's turn, before they can play any cards. However, with hourglasses you can end the game in the middle of your turn.
Obviously this would call for quite different deck ideas than usual. But there are various approaches that seem to be viable, which suggests to me that it might make for an interesting challenge.
The main emphasis could be on controlling one's own creatures, damaging only with magic (which is easier to control but can fail completely against a Silence on the last turn), changing the size of the draw pile during the game (draw more cards / rewind creatures) or just killing yourself quickly.
fire: blast away, keep lots of fire bolts, rage pots, and immolations in hand, lower opponent hp to minimum, kill everything that does damage, done..."I need them alive:"I like the idea! Have you tested it in Duel yet?
As soon as any player is down to 15 cards in his drawing pile, the player with most HPs left wins. If anyone kills his opponent before that, they lose. The objective is to hurt, not kill.
Obviously, the number 15 can be tweaked (maybe 12 might be better?). The end of the game will usually be at the beginning of someone's turn, before they can play any cards. However, with hourglasses you can end the game in the middle of your turn.
Obviously this would call for quite different deck ideas than usual. But there are various approaches that seem to be viable, which suggests to me that it might make for an interesting challenge.
The main emphasis could be on controlling one's own creatures, damaging only with magic (which is easier to control but can fail completely against a Silence on the last turn), changing the size of the draw pile during the game (draw more cards / rewind creatures) or just killing yourself quickly.
well, thing about lose to win tourneyIn a Lose to Win tournament, I don't think your opponent will be helping you kill yourself.
u get nothing, let your opponent destroy you
and when you are very low on hp, bolt yourself, kill yourself, you win...
2v2? :)go look for PvP events
Mind Games - Decks must have six Mindgatessounds fun, only problem:
Hi,suggest this to PvP events
I think it might be fun to make a tag team tournament. A team must consist of different elements. A team that get 2 wins advances, etc.
"Grounded"but.. but... no phoenixes? no wings? no photons?
Only non-flying creatures can be in the deck. No Flying Weapons or Wings allowed. Atleast 50% of the deck has to be Earth
i wish we can run the following tournament before war 3 starts:When is the war anyway?
In preparation for War: all decks used must be under war decks format (50% of one element), or underworld war format (50% of one element, max 3 copies of the same card)
no upgraded cards
as soon as SG returns, WAR!!!i wish we can run the following tournament before war 3 starts:When is the war anyway?
In preparation for War: all decks used must be under war decks format (50% of one element), or underworld war format (50% of one element, max 3 copies of the same card)
no upgraded cards
i wish we can run the following tournament before war 3 starts:I like it, but the first one looks like trials a little bit too much?
In preparation for War: all decks used must be under war decks format (50% of one element), or underworld war format (50% of one element, max 3 copies of the same card)
no upgraded cards
i wish we can run the following tournament before war 3 starts:I like it, but the first one looks like trials a little bit too much?
In preparation for War: all decks used must be under war decks format (50% of one element), or underworld war format (50% of one element, max 3 copies of the same card)
no upgraded cards
Tri element with no Nova's or Quantum Pillars/TowersDo you mean Trio (3 element) decks?
Do you mean Trio (3 element) decks?Yes
"Grounded"Aren't all weapons flying when you animate them....? or are you talking about ranged weapons?
Only non-flying creatures can be in the deck. No Flying Weapons or Wings allowed. Atleast 50% of the deck has to be Earth
Which is exactly why it's banned..."Grounded"Aren't all weapons flying when you animate them....? or are you talking about ranged weapons?
Only non-flying creatures can be in the deck. No Flying Weapons or Wings allowed. Atleast 50% of the deck has to be Earth
Love,
Blake
Cheap - No more than 500 coins can be spent creating the deck. This would make the tournament fair for all! :DI support the idea of a "Cheap" tournament (even though the amount of coins should be upped a bit :D), but the problem is that there is no way of knowing how much money your opponent have spent...
Cheap - No more than 500 coins can be spent creating the deck. This would make the tournament fair for all! :DSame - Been there,
Expensive - More than 5000 coins must be spent on deck, upgrades aloud.
Same - Everyone has to use the same deck, pre-defined by the TO's.
ummm... 'no guard'... no shields... creatures' attack>defense only, sound good? ;DThis means you can't include armagios, colossal dragons or stone dragons, right?
Name: Gravity ShowdownAll tournaments are best of three, except for prelimins (and even then, they can be best of three depending on the number.)
Extra Rules:
1. Maximum 40 cards.
2. At least 5 different Gravity cards and :gravity mark.
3. Unupped only.
4. Best Of 3.
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Number of Cards in Deck | Minimum Number of Crusaders in Deck |
30-34 | 3 |
35-44 | 4 |
45-54 | 5 |
55-60 | 6 |
Rainbow decks:Must, right?
you may take 2 cards from each element (24 cards) and 6x quantum pillars...
Diminishing ReturnsThose are more pvp event ideas, too complicated for tourneys I'm afraid.
You start with a single deck that you will use exclusively throughout the tournament. Each round you advance you must remove exactly 5 cards from your deck, no more and no less. If at any time you miscalculate and discarding 5 cards will put you under 30 then you are disqualified and not eligible for any prizes (so a forfeit in the finals will not earn you 2nd place).
* Tables for card minimums needed for each round to avoid disqualification will be provided
The Salvager
Each player starts with one deck. When you win a round your opponenet will post the deck(s) they used against you in that round in the games you won. You will now be allowed to add play these decks in addition to your own in future battles. No editing of your orginial deck or a salvaged deck will be allowed.
Example: Johnny and Julie play a preliminary match. Johnny wins. Julie posts her deck in the tournament thread and Johnny now has 2 decks he can use in his next round. In Round 2 Johnny plays Jackie and loses 2-1. Johnny lost both games where he used his own deck but won the game where he used Julie's deck, so he will only post his own deck since that was the losing deck. Jackie is now allowed to play that deck in addition to any others she has previously salvaged.
Was kind of afraid of that. They are in the in-between area where they are too complex for a weekly tournament, but not involved enough for a PvP event.Diminishing ReturnsThose are more pvp event ideas, too complicated for tourneys I'm afraid.
You start with a single deck that you will use exclusively throughout the tournament. Each round you advance you must remove exactly 5 cards from your deck, no more and no less. If at any time you miscalculate and discarding 5 cards will put you under 30 then you are disqualified and not eligible for any prizes (so a forfeit in the finals will not earn you 2nd place).
* Tables for card minimums needed for each round to avoid disqualification will be provided
The Salvager
Each player starts with one deck. When you win a round your opponenet will post the deck(s) they used against you in that round in the games you won. You will now be allowed to add play these decks in addition to your own in future battles. No editing of your orginial deck or a salvaged deck will be allowed.
Example: Johnny and Julie play a preliminary match. Johnny wins. Julie posts her deck in the tournament thread and Johnny now has 2 decks he can use in his next round. In Round 2 Johnny plays Jackie and loses 2-1. Johnny lost both games where he used his own deck but won the game where he used Julie's deck, so he will only post his own deck since that was the losing deck. Jackie is now allowed to play that deck in addition to any others she has previously salvaged.
the original:Could you please post a list of all of the cards from 0.3? I hadn't discovered the game until Elements 1.25/1.26.
you may only use cards included in the original version of the game, version 0.3
Wasn't this already suggested on the main list?the original:Could you please post a list of all of the cards from 0.3? I hadn't discovered the game until Elements 1.25/1.26.
you may only use cards included in the original version of the game, version 0.3
Ye Olde Tournament (only allowed to use cards that were in Elements when it first began)
Please edit all your posts into a single one or I will delete them.Apologies for the spamming, I'm somewhat new to foruming. I edited all the posts but can't seem to delete them, so if you'd be so kind...
-Invoker, only spells are allowedNo RoF?
-Only a kind of a card on the deck
-Heavy Storm, Flood and Thunderstorm are automatically activated each players turn(This requires help from Zanz, I know)
-Passive Killers, no cards with skill with activation cost allowed
-60-cards war, no rare, no upped, no rainbow
-Fractal war? Your deck must contain 6 Fractal
-Mindreaders, deck must contain Mindgate and Precognition
-Only weapon and shield cards are allowed
-No permanent allowed (maybe allow pillar and pends?)
-Siege war, no permanent allowed except Catapult, and your deck must contain Catapult and Tower Shields?
-One-on-one, players are only allowed to summon 1 creature in the field
This is still growable xD
-Invoker, only spells are allowedWhat is heavy storm?
-Only a kind of a card on the deck
-Heavy Storm, Flood and Thunderstorm are automatically activated each players turn(This requires help from Zanz, I know)
-Passive Killers, no cards with skill with activation cost allowed
-60-cards war, no rare, no upped, no rainbow
-Fractal war? Your deck must contain 6 Fractal
-Mindreaders, deck must contain Mindgate and Precognition
-Only weapon and shield cards are allowed
-No permanent allowed (maybe allow pillar and pends?)
-Siege war, no permanent allowed except Catapult, and your deck must contain Catapult and Tower Shields?
-One-on-one, players are only allowed to summon 1 creature in the field
This is still growable xD
Rules:This could be something like no shields + only creatures with attack > hp?
Unupped Cards
No shields
No Nymphs
Maybe a rule:
Only using rares?
No Pendulums
My Balls are bigger!WIN!!!
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Can't haz moar quanta - no quanta generation besides pillars/pendulums/marks allowed.I like the concept, but it would be interesting if there was an additional limit of 6 pillars/pends total per deck. 3 pillars and 3 pends and you are at the max, for example. Earthquake, discord, and black hole would also be banned for balance. Ultra-low quanta decks, powered mostly by markCode: [Select]4vj 52v 58u 5bv 5f9 5ig 5io 5ld 5lj 5ls 5od 5oj 5ok 5um
StallkerThat is almost impossible only a few decks can get a win in 3 turns and then only on a good draw, 2 turns i think is impossible or i have never heard of it happening
In order to win a game, you must kill your opponent in a minimum of 2 (or 3) turns.
It's poorly worded, but he means that you can't inflict any damage until you can kill in 2 or 3 turns. In other words, sort of a pseudo-OTK/Fractal tourney. It's easily improved by forcing the rule to 1-2 turns.This will be a fire stall/fractix with normal phoenixes,lol.
It was the wrong section? I put it in the section for Competition idea's. If it goes here I will move it.Your suggestion was titled as a Competition but the format and idea seems much more appropriate for a tournament or PvP Event. My post move messed up on me so I had to quote the post and move it instead. ^^;
Ok, soz, I will move it here. I wish someone would look at my PvP Tournament idea thoughIt was the wrong section? I put it in the section for Competition idea's. If it goes here I will move it.Your suggestion was titled as a Competition but the format and idea seems much more appropriate for a tournament or PvP Event. My post move messed up on me so I had to quote the post and move it instead. ^^;
Max of 4 copies per card, not including pillars/pends.Well, they don't have to win another code, just another trophy
40 cards minimum in the deck.
This will flush away any regular rush and stall deck forcing players to invent new decks, and each deck will have many combos.
Games might take a bit longer, but overall it should be more fun than normal. Getting knocked out in prelims by a mono aether or grabbix or even a firestall is hardly any fun.
@masterfurry
So tourney winners should have their own tourney. So a previous winner, someone who received a code for a mark/nymph is now given another one, handed one basically. I do not support your idea. Also, since each tourney has its own rules, there is never a "best" especially if players used a basic deck to win with, and the game relies too much on luck.
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The UnderdogsOoh, I like this. How about "Your deck must include 10 copies of cards from this list in any combination" ?
You must use in your deck at least one card from the ten least used cards:
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adrenaline should be allowed for vowels tourneyNo idea why it wasn't on there, sorry.
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Shouldnt there be classes on the tournaments, like for newbies and for experienced players?And how exactly would you decide is someone is a pro or not?
Done already. I happen to be the winner of it.Shouldnt there be classes on the tournaments, like for newbies and for experienced players?And how exactly would you decide is someone is a pro or not?
OT: How about a tournament where you can only use vanilla creatures?
D'oh! Okay, I'll think of something else :PDone already. I happen to be the winner of it.Shouldnt there be classes on the tournaments, like for newbies and for experienced players?And how exactly would you decide is someone is a pro or not?
OT: How about a tournament where you can only use vanilla creatures?
Well yeah, a vannila tournament could make the difference because newbies dont have a deck or money to get upgraded cardsMost tournaments are unupgraded only anyways
Well yeah, a vannila tournament could make the difference because newbies dont have a deck or money to get upgraded cardsWhat does a vanilla creatures only tournament have to do with upgraded cards? (Note: that idea has already been done a few months ago http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25202.0.html)
Yeah didnt noticed about that sorry :/Well yeah, a vannila tournament could make the difference because newbies dont have a deck or money to get upgraded cardsWhat does a vanilla creatures only tournament have to do with upgraded cards? (Note: that idea has already been done a few months ago http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25202.0.html)
75% of tournaments are already completely unupped, and the other 25% allow unupped and upped cards.
Double elimination!Needs some other rules.
Moonchild MindgamesAlthough I love this idea, this would be painfully slow. You come up with pretty good ideas, I should hire you as my tourney maker :D.
I don't know to what extent that would be viable, but let's explain it:
Your deck can only contain cards of a maximum 3 elements.
You CANNOT have quanta source for that cards.
Mark should be Aether and you may have up to 5 aether pillars, but the only aether card allowed will be Mindgate
You'll be required to have a min of 5 pillars of 3 different elements(which you won't use in your deck).
All non-pillar free cards are banned
The point is that you mindgate your opponent to be able to play your cards.
I'm aware that this may cause a pretty slow tourney, and I know that some people say mindgate causes desynch(altho I never had a problem with it myself).
But sounds like fun
Suicide: The objective is to kill yourself before your opponent.Haha! That's a good one! Me thinks most people will make a quick hourglass/precog deck to deck themselves out quickly.
Using firebolts may be faster. Maybe even Ghostal.Suicide: The objective is to kill yourself before your opponent.Haha! That's a good one! Me thinks most people will make a quick hourglass/precog deck to deck themselves out quickly.
Mono: A separate tournament for each of the elements including rainbow.Yay for 12 peoples receiving marks!
Dark VS LightSounds great, the synergies between light and life, and darkness and death would make this really interesting!
And yeah since its halloween we should have :life and :light vs :death and :darkness
- means this are the only elements allowed
- can play mono or duo ( :death and :darkness) or ( :light and :life)
Newbie - Decks may not use rares and must cost less than 1000 electrum to build.I'm pretty sure something like that has been done before.
what about a OTK tourney? All decks must contain a combo that can OTKNO! Intosis and Chapuzes thing would win. :D
I mean there are counters to those.. there is a voodoo holy light, fractal Ball Lightning, Fire bolt, (ice and drain life +4 damage)what about a OTK tourney? All decks must contain a combo that can OTKNO! Intosis and Chapuzes thing would win. :D
Newbie - Decks may not use rares and must cost less than 1000 electrum to build.
Efficiency: Any decks are allowed as long as the total cost is less than 4000 :electrum (or some other number)Only seven posts apart. On the same page! Wow...
fall of the towers:-no pillers allowed
We've done two Pendulums (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13187.0.html) Only (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,29773.0.html) tournaments before.
rising star/tribe leader:-only 1 upgraded card allowed(6 copy max)
Upped tournaments cover that, since upped cards are allowed, but not mandatory. Also, no card restrictions = less interesting deckbuilding and duels.
crippled:-no weapons allowed.can damage opponent with creatures only.no shield allowed.can only play creatures whose attack is either 0,1 or 3.attack 2 might be allowed with no graboids
Could be interesting, but what about Growth-type creatures like Steam Machine (i.e. does attack power have to stay at or below 3)?
heavy rains:-mark should be water only,no pillers other than water allowed(other pends are allowed,so is nova and cremation)
I like where this is going; flesh it out some more?
bad weather:-no flying(airborne) creatures allowed
heavyweights:-only creatures with more than 5 hp allowed
Done before (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28086.0.html) (creatures with HP>6 only, plus a few other banned cards)
fall of the towers:-no pillers allowedI'm planning on making some sort of heavyweight tourney next week for thanksgiving, but I also have another idea in mind.
rising star/tribe leader:-only 1 upgraded card allowed(6 copy max)
crippled:-no weapons allowed.can damage opponent with creatures only.no shield allowed.can only play creatures whose attack is either 0,1 or 3.attack 2 might be allowed with no graboids
heavy rains:-mark should be water only,no pillers other than water allowed(other pends are allowed,so is nova and cremation)
bad weather:-no flying(airborne) creatures allowed
heavyweights:-only creatures with more than 5 hp allowed
Alright my tournament idea is:Best-of-one? Meep >_<"
Name: Luck Rush
Description: every card is alowed upped or unupped only have best of 1 matchs instead of full best of 3 and no changeing deck period
which wil make it:
1. faster, making it easier for people who don't have time for a full tournament (of course you might have people who don't like that they lost but that could happen during any tournament) and
2. more of a luck based tournament.
great idea love itAlright my tournament idea is:Best-of-one? Meep >_<"
Name: Luck Rush
Description: every card is alowed upped or unupped only have best of 1 matchs instead of full best of 3 and no changeing deck period
which wil make it:
1. faster, making it easier for people who don't have time for a full tournament (of course you might have people who don't like that they lost but that could happen during any tournament) and
2. more of a luck based tournament.
While luck-based tournaments are fun every now and then, it's even more fun when ONLY luck-based cards are allowed (Fate Egg, Skeleton, or Mutation, for instance) :P
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my ideas:Your first idea doesn`t make much sense.
Screw Mulligan:
A maximum of 6 cards with a cost per deck. Shields are not allowed.
Endurance:
All Players start tourney with 100 hp. HP losses are carried through rounds. Banned cards would include direct damage and life increase cards.
Apocalypse:
No creatures. Weapon Damage is doubled. Steal pulvy and fahrenheit banned.
Tourney ideas have to be possibleThis made me lol.
You could actualy do endurance though... If you get down to (100-the health you lost last battle) you would lose (abandon game and report it as a win)Quotemy ideas:Your first idea doesn`t make much sense.
Screw Mulligan:
A maximum of 6 cards with a cost per deck. Shields are not allowed.
Endurance:
All Players start tourney with 100 hp. HP losses are carried through rounds. Banned cards would include direct damage and life increase cards.
Apocalypse:
No creatures. Weapon Damage is doubled. Steal pulvy and fahrenheit banned.
The endurance and apocalypse idea cannot happen. Game mechanics cannot be altered. You cannot double weapon damage just by wanting it, and you cannot start out with a certain amount of hp, it will always be 100.
Tourney ideas have to be possible.
You could actualy do endurance though... If you get down to (100-the health you lost last battle) you would lose (abandon game and report it as a win)Too complex and too easy for people to get confused by it for a weekly tourney. That might be a good basis for an Event though.
No creature with an attack of >0.And have the game degenerate into a poison/purify stall going on?
No creature cards.
Actually, it would be interesting. Maybe a stall game, but still interesting. I mean, imagine flying weapon decks? You could go a million ways from there, as those kind of decks already exist. It's a suggestion.No creature with an attack of >0.And have the game degenerate into a poison/purify stall going on?
No creature cards.
No creature with an attack of >0.The first idea sounds more interesting to me, as you could still have growing creatures like Otyugh, Vulture, Steam Machine. No creatures would mean very little deck variety at all.
No creature cards.
Epic Deck Time!Does that mean you have to be eating bacon strips while playing?... cause if so I'm in... no way to enforce it, but then who WOULDN'T want to eat bacon strips (except maybe a vegan or something)
- No upgraded cards.
- Decks must contain 60 cards.
- No more than 4 copies of any card (except Pillar / Pend / Mark)
- Bacon strips!
- Shards allowed (only 2 copies)
- More bacon strips!
- Decks may not contain more than 3 elements (less is allowed though)
- At the beginning of the tournament, a random card will be posted, which you must include 6 times.
- Decks may not be changed in a match.
Does that mean you have to be eating bacon strips while playing?... cause if so I'm in... no way to enforce it, but then who WOULDN'T want to eat bacon strips (except maybe a vegan or something)notsureifserious.jpg
Now we just need a card specificaly for the tourney:
-Bacon Strip - Permanent - Ability: NOM NOM NOM - feed bacon strip to target otyugh or vulture. It gains +5/+5 but is stunned for 1 round while recuperating from food coma.
An idea comes to mind for the next tourney, based on my post here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,35893.msg482938#msg482938).It's a good start, but we'd probably need to spice things up with a few more additional rules. Four card limit without any other restrictions is actually pretty easy to build around (I'm looking at you, Graboidbow).
The idea:
Unupped deck, no shards.
All other cards are allowed. Only 4 copies of cards are allowed as opposed to 6. Pillars and pends are exception.
Slightly complicated idea, might work better as an event:No no no, you could just lie.
Cards are grouped into 6 categories based on popularity, commonality, use, and strategical value. E.G. Graboid is in the 1st category (most useful) while Antlion is in the 6th (least useful). Special: Relic is worth 10 points. Using a card in the nth category gives n points if you win. If you win, you gain the average of the point values of your cards. BO3. Higher score wins (so you can potentially go 1-2 and win). Scores carry over, so you could potentially go 0-3 and win a match.
How about, all decks must use at least 4 types of quanta, with no Nova, Quantum Pillars, or Immo?Wasn't there already one like that? Or was that trios?
How about, all decks must use at least 4 types of quanta, with no Nova, Quantum Pillars, or Immo?That was basically what I had said a few posts back... except i said at least 3. A 4 type min. would work too though
An idea I thought would be interesting: Chromatic InstabilityEither way, it encourages decks that aren't mono, duo, or rainbow which would make for a fun tourney i think.
-No Upped cards
-No shards except Shard of Readiness or Shard of Serendipity
-Decks must contain at least 3 elements
-No quantum pillars
-40 card minimum
-Limit 1 nova or immolation for every 20 cards (or eliminate them entirely if this is too hard to police)
Your deck's QI must be less than 3 or over 7.This will be too hard.
one that I don't see mentioned is no creatures at all.No creatures has been suggested and it unbalances the meta way too much. Arsenics+poisons stalls and Fahrenheit+bolts will be the only decks used.
yes, we do have ones with creature limitations but this would be completely different.
the 3 main strategies I see here are the entrophy shard (to get creatures), deckout, and spell OTKs.
i agree that this would be severely restricting, but i would love to see some of the decks produced.
one that I don't see mentioned is no creatures at all.No creatures has been suggested and it unbalances the meta way too much. Arsenics+poisons stalls and Fahrenheit+bolts will be the only decks used.
yes, we do have ones with creature limitations but this would be completely different.
the 3 main strategies I see here are the entrophy shard (to get creatures), deckout, and spell OTKs.
i agree that this would be severely restricting, but i would love to see some of the decks produced.
Alliteration: All cards (excluding pendulums and pillars) need to start with the same letter (not sure if this should be upgraded or unupped). For example, a deck of Aflatoxins, Arsenics, and Archangels are allowed, but not one with Devourers, Nightfall, Vampire Dagger, etc. (Ignore creature generators or other card generators in this case; it's only the deck cards that need to be considered. Pillars/Pendulums are ignored as well)
Silly idea, I know. :P
What about a trios only tournament? Simple, but it gives everyone a chance to use decks that are otherwise rarely used in competitive play.
What about a trios only tournament? Simple, but it gives everyone a chance to use decks that are otherwise rarely used in competitive play.Build a rainbow without QPs, nova, or immo :D
What about a trios only tournament? Simple, but it gives everyone a chance to use decks that are otherwise rarely used in competitive play.
If you ban nova and immolation, otherwise it will be like the last trio tournament again, Scrambled Shriekers with Flying Weapon and Damselflies stomped.
Cheap ImitationsWas done before, with modified versions of the FG decks. And 2 FGs do use shards.
Players may only use unupped versions of False-God decks.
Note: Since False Gods don't use shards that automatically means no shards allowed :)
The false god decks can be found here:
Here are the decks of the actual False Gods: (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7919.0.html)
What about a trios only tournament? Simple, but it gives everyone a chance to use decks that are otherwise rarely used in competitive play.Build a rainbow without QPs, nova, or immo :D
Two pieces of a mirror.
Both players send the TO (or a neutral 3rd party) a 15-30 card deck consisting of a max of 3 non pillar cards. The 3rd party then puts the decks together and both players must play each other using the combined deck. Any mark is allowed.
Two pieces of a mirror.
Both players send the TO (or a neutral 3rd party) a 15-30 card deck consisting of a max of 3 non pillar cards. The 3rd party then puts the decks together and both players must play each other using the combined deck. Any mark is allowed.
A tournament where you're only allowed to spend quanta you got on your last turn. Devourers and bolts might be powerful, expensive cards would be much harder to play.
a tournament where only dragons can be used as creatures.
a tournament where only dragons can be used as creatures.
That's a pretty good idea, but I feel like everyone would be using a variation of the same deck that is like a rainbow deck with sky blitz, so you just play 5 dragons and a sky blitz and one turn win.
A tournament where you're only allowed to spend quanta you got on your last turn. Devourers and bolts might be powerful, expensive cards would be much harder to play.
Do you mean last turn like the final turn of your deck? Or last turn like the most recent turn?
I see your dragon rainbow OTK and raise you a PU Dragons + silencea tournament where only dragons can be used as creatures.
That's a pretty good idea, but I feel like everyone would be using a variation of the same deck that is like a rainbow deck with sky blitz, so you just play 5 dragons and a sky blitz and one turn win.
I see your dragon rainbow OTK and raise you a PU Dragons + silencea tournament where only dragons can be used as creatures.
That's a pretty good idea, but I feel like everyone would be using a variation of the same deck that is like a rainbow deck with sky blitz, so you just play 5 dragons and a sky blitz and one turn win.
But yeah, in all seriousness, the amount of archetypes would be limited. Especially if FW is banned, which I imagine it would be. And since otks get around things like firestall, lots of creatureless decks would be moot.
I see your dragon rainbow OTK and raise you a PU Dragons + silencea tournament where only dragons can be used as creatures.
That's a pretty good idea, but I feel like everyone would be using a variation of the same deck that is like a rainbow deck with sky blitz, so you just play 5 dragons and a sky blitz and one turn win.
But yeah, in all seriousness, the amount of archetypes would be limited. Especially if FW is banned, which I imagine it would be. And since otks get around things like firestall, lots of creatureless decks would be moot.
Chaos vs. Order (Only decks allowed are entropy and aether)Lore: Gravity is Entropy's opposite.
Entropic elementals do now have a defined form; they look fluid, ever-changing in shape. Entropy itself works like a force that separates and creates random entities at the same time, like dropping some black ink in a glass of clear water, what is that thing that created all of those strange shapes within the water? Entropy.
Gravity elementals are chunky, dense, heavy beings, somewhat similar to sumo wrestlers. They control that force that pulls you close to another object and its direction. They can decide to make themselves a center of gravity making you fall toward them; or they can decide to put that center of gravity somewhere else in the space and they can simply fall there, instead of walking. They ultimately control acceleration, and the motion of anything around them. Gravity works sometime as the opposite of entropy, remember that drop of ink dissolving in the glass of water? Gravity elementals could turn it back into a perfect sphere of ink suspended in the middle of the water.
"Reality Crash" where only non fictional life forms collide in a battle for supremacy (spells and permanents need to be defined)
Thats everything from the bazaar i can show. So how about it?
Ooh, I really like this one. Since antimatter doesn't exist in reality, I assume it wouldn't be allowed?Wat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter)
Ooh, I really like this one. Since antimatter doesn't exist in reality, I assume it wouldn't be allowed?Wat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter)
Name: One for all, all in oneTried it, and those decks are exceedingly fun. I think I can beat AI2 with them :)
Restrictions: One copy of each card max, including pends/pillars.
No bans other than the usual suspects.
(And yes, you can make decent decks for it apparently)
I beat ai 3! HA!Name: One for all, all in oneTried it, and those decks are exceedingly fun. I think I can beat AI2 with them :)
Restrictions: One copy of each card max, including pends/pillars.
No bans other than the usual suspects.
(And yes, you can make decent decks for it apparently)
Has anyone proposed a tourney where the objective is to LOSE your match? For example, first person to deck-out wins.
Been done as or fit as PvP Events
Lose to win
Anti-Mainstreamlove that tournament idea make it official plz
There are a number of ways to go about this, and one of the biggest problems is deciding what counts as mainstream. Mainstream would involve categories and mods/variations of it.
One way is to ban all cards that form a mainstream deck. Another is to only ban them from being in the same deck as each other. (Actually, I like the second one better, and I'll add to it)
You may only use mainstream cards, but not so that they make a mainstream combo/deck.
Pharaoh vs FFQNobody would use FFQ.
1 - Players need to have 6 copies of Pharaoh or FFQ in your deck.
2 - Shard of Freedom and Shard of Readiness shards are allowed, the other shards, not are allowed.
3 - No upgraded cards.
Pharaoh vs FFQ
SoR pharaoh is strong enough to farm higher leagues like gold/plat with no difficulty due to its speed and control. Even with shards banned, Pharaoh is mono and can create scarabs with CC potential while fireflies only produce quanta.
The Deck of FFQ may have advantages cc as SW and OE, also just 3 Shards of Freedon to effectively prevent attack scarabs or RT.
Can I be a TO now please? I promise I can come up with more :PBut why? You have more time for ideas this way ;)
How about a "Lucky 7" theme? Cards must either have a 7 in their stats (without buffs), a 7 cost, 7 in their text (are there any?) or their deck must have exactly 7 elements. (Other doesn't count). If there aren't enough cards then include ones whose stats add up to 7. Upped cards can be allowed for a bigger selection of cards.
Tournament idea: Try to lose each game!This might be quite intresting if you ban cards that allow fast drawing, otherwise all will use mono :time decks to run out of cards.
Tournament idea: Try to lose each game!This might be quite intresting if you ban cards that allow fast drawing, otherwise all will use mono :time decks to run out of cards.
Tourney idea: weapons only (only cards allowed are weapons, animate weapon and cards that directly buff the weapons when they are in play).
I'll remind people this topic isn't for criticising others' ideas. The TO's will handle the refining process.
Oh, I just joined the forum 2 days ago, and I didn't see that. Sorry.
Instead, maybe each person could pick a (real) name, and use that name for the cards that begin with those letters.
Nymphomaniac....
Each deck needs at least 3 nymphs or nymphs tears and 3 quint because a beauty like that shall not be hurt :)
no upgrades/shards
Mono-Limb LossSuch as banning Discord from Entropy?
All decks must be monos.
The most important 'limbs' of each element cannot be used.
These limbs could be several things (depending on the TOs), including but not limited to specific cards besides regular bans, key defining abilities, a certain small set of cards that function to tie things together as a limb does.
Pillars are always allowed in tournaments. Read up on the rules before you go posting low-quality posts.ODD TIME
- Upgraded cards and shards are not allowed.
- Only cards cost odd number are allowed. (Cards with no cost quanta are considered even number)
- Creature with the skills and permanent cost even number of quanta are not allowed.
Except that pillars should be allowed aswell.
Just out of curiosity - where in the rules does it state that pillars are always included?It's kind of a given that pillars/pendulums are included unless stated otherwise.
Just out of curiosity - where in the rules does it state that pillars are always included?
IDEA 2
"Gladiators" AKA - Weapons and shields only
No creatures.
No Spells.
No Pillars/Pendulums, except Quantum Pillars.
No Shards or non weapon or shield Permanents.
No upgraded cards
Edits may be made to suit TOs needs/wants.
IDEA 2Building on top of this idea and -somewhat- what d2d said, it could be some sort of "Sader" tournament! Only weapons (flying weapon) + Crusader (ban Vamp Stilleto because Vader Sader is unoriginal and no fun).
"Gladiators" AKA - Weapons and shields only
No creatures.
No Spells.
No Pillars/Pendulums, except Quantum Pillars.
No Shards or non weapon or shield Permanents.
No upgraded cards
Edits may be made to suit TOs needs/wants.
Here is a kind of metagame idea.This wouldn't work because people post at different times, so one person posts his decks and then another person is like "OH THAT'S WHAT HE'S USING?" and makes all the counters for it and posts that.
Shackled Omniscience:
At the start of the match/tournament, each player must post the deck image of the decks that he is going to use for the match/tournament, after which no editing of the decks is allowed.
That's a good idea. everyone posts to TO who then posts all the decks and optionally, the name of the player using said decks.Here is a kind of metagame idea.This wouldn't work because people post at different times, so one person posts his decks and then another person is like "OH THAT'S WHAT HE'S USING?" and makes all the counters for it and posts that.
Shackled Omniscience:
At the start of the match/tournament, each player must post the deck image of the decks that he is going to use for the match/tournament, after which no editing of the decks is allowed.
Adding on to this, to make it more doable, perhaps the contestants can only use 'x' amount of decks and they must PM their decks to a TO before the tournament starts.
Exactly. I actually think this would make a great tournament.That's a good idea. everyone posts to TO who then posts all the decks and optionally, the name of the player using said decks.Here is a kind of metagame idea.This wouldn't work because people post at different times, so one person posts his decks and then another person is like "OH THAT'S WHAT HE'S USING?" and makes all the counters for it and posts that.
Shackled Omniscience:
At the start of the match/tournament, each player must post the deck image of the decks that he is going to use for the match/tournament, after which no editing of the decks is allowed.
Adding on to this, to make it more doable, perhaps the contestants can only use 'x' amount of decks and they must PM their decks to a TO before the tournament starts.
Only Stephen Hawking can use Discord and only 1 of it.On the contrary, I believe Discord should be banned from everyone -- especially Stephen Hawking. Discohole is quite the bitch against any mono or duo.
-- MEETING OF THE SCIENTISTS --
The players must choose to be one of these scientists before the tournament starts:
- James Maxwell: must use 6 copies of Maxwell's Demon
- Erwin Schrödinger: must use 6 copies of Schrödinger's Cat
- Albertus Magnus: must use 6 copies of Arsenic
- Edward Lorenz: must use 6 copies of Butterfly Effect
- Isaac Newton: must use 6 copies of Momentum
- Paul Steinhardt: must use 6 copies of Quintessence
- Stephen Hawking: must use 6 copies of Black Hole
The players cannot change identity after the first match.
They must not reveal themselves to other players until they battle.
The main cards of other scientists cannot be used.
Shards are not allowed.
Only Stephen Hawking can use Discord and only 1 of it.
Don't worry about that; just leave it up to the TOs-- MEETING OF THE SCIENTISTS --
The players must choose to be one of these scientists before the tournament starts:
- James Maxwell: must use 6 copies of Maxwell's Demon
- Erwin Schrödinger: must use 6 copies of Schrödinger's Cat
- Albertus Magnus: must use 6 copies of Arsenic
- Edward Lorenz: must use 6 copies of Butterfly Effect
- Isaac Newton: must use 6 copies of Momentum
- Paul Steinhardt: must use 6 copies of Quintessence
- Stephen Hawking: must use 6 copies of Black Hole
The players cannot change identity after the first match.
They must not reveal themselves to other players until they battle.
The main cards of other scientists cannot be used.
Shards are not allowed.
Only Stephen Hawking can use Discord and only 1 of it.
i like this idea, but what about mitosis, parallel universe, unstable gas, and perhaps others? they could have respective scientists.
@SubmachineParticularly I wanted to ban Light and Air nymph, but then I thought that it would be easier and more fair if I ban all.
Why ban Nymphs? Unless you view them as a form of mass CC. Perhaps ban Blue Nymph, especially since no mirror shields
Why ban Fractal but not Mitosis?
I understand banning bolts, should be mentioned
Why ban Graboid but not Fate Egg or creatures with ablaze or growth or Lycanthrope or Mutation or Rage Potion Mercenaries? Consider if graboids would really overwhelm the meta in the face of Blessed Dive, Aflatoxin against no shields or mass CC (though no Empathic), Purify+Heal+Adrena vamps, Purify+Heal+Adrena Pufferfish
Purify not banned. 6 Purifies heal 12 per turn. I suppose needed given the strength of Poison otherwise, unless you ban poison cards alongside Purify
It's always surprising to see what newcomers use their first post for. :o So basicallyElements Reunion! What have you been doing all these years?
- Your deck has to have at least one copy of each non-rare creature that matches your mark. This is a reunion, after all, and we want everyone to attend!
- Your deck has to have at least 40 cards. We need plenty of space for this sure-to-be fun occasion!
- No permanents besides pillars and pendulums. We want everyone to be sociable, not standing around gawking at enchantments or coveting rare weapons.
- No nymphs. They're haughty, and will ruin the congenial atmosphere.
Remember to RSVP!
I love this idea... though I think there are a lot of good options you missed-- MEETING OF THE SCIENTISTS --
The players must choose to be one of these scientists before the tournament starts:
- James Maxwell: must use 6 copies of Maxwell's Demon
- Erwin Schrödinger: must use 6 copies of Schrödinger's Cat
- Albertus Magnus: must use 6 copies of Arsenic
- Edward Lorenz: must use 6 copies of Butterfly Effect
- Isaac Newton: must use 6 copies of Momentum
- Paul Steinhardt: must use 6 copies of Quintessence
- Stephen Hawking: must use 6 copies of Black Hole
The players cannot change identity after the first match.
They must not reveal themselves to other players until they battle.
The main cards of other scientists cannot be used.
Shards are not allowed.
Only Stephen Hawking can use Discord and only 1 of it.
i like this idea, but what about mitosis, parallel universe, unstable gas, and perhaps others? they could have respective scientists.
6 copies of Earthquake would be OP, but otherwise you're right about there should be more. :) I tested these rules once in BL with Dm1321, and there wasn't really any OP strategy, but some tweaking in the numbers of copies might be good. If that ever happens, it's up to a TO to decide.I love this idea... though I think there are a lot of good options you missed-- MEETING OF THE SCIENTISTS --
The players must choose to be one of these scientists before the tournament starts:
- James Maxwell: must use 6 copies of Maxwell's Demon
- Erwin Schrödinger: must use 6 copies of Schrödinger's Cat
- Albertus Magnus: must use 6 copies of Arsenic
- Edward Lorenz: must use 6 copies of Butterfly Effect
- Isaac Newton: must use 6 copies of Momentum
- Paul Steinhardt: must use 6 copies of Quintessence
- Stephen Hawking: must use 6 copies of Black Hole
The players cannot change identity after the first match.
They must not reveal themselves to other players until they battle.
The main cards of other scientists cannot be used.
Shards are not allowed.
Only Stephen Hawking can use Discord and only 1 of it.
i like this idea, but what about mitosis, parallel universe, unstable gas, and perhaps others? they could have respective scientists.
Some others to include:
Benoit Mandelbrot for 6 copies of fractal
Daniel Fahrenheit for 6 copies of Fahrenheit
Benjamin Franklin for 6 copies of Lightning Bolt
Albert Einstein for 6 copies of photon
Raphael Dubois for 6 copies of luciferin
Walther Flemming for 6 copies of Mitosis
Nicolas Carnot for 6 copies of Steam Machine
Charles Richter for 6 copies of Earthquake
Carl Anderson (or Paul Dirac) for 6 copies of Antimatter
I was thinking about having tourneys based off film series. That is, for each film in a series, you need to have X element cards. After every game, you move on to the next film in the series (or maybe not the last part). The 2 examples I thought of were Harry Potter and James Bondyellow is my input
Harry Potter
Philosopher's stone - must have X :earth cards
Chamber of secrets - must have X :entropy cards
Prisoner of Azkaban - must have X :darkness cards
Goblet of Fire - must have X :fire cards
Order of the phoenix - ???
Half blood prince - must have X :time cards
deathly hallows - must have X :death cards
X can be any number which is deemed fit. Not sure on all of them.
Rusher vs. OTKmakers - unpgraded
Players must choose a side, Rushers or OTKmakers. Obviously, Rushers will use rush decks and OTKmakers will use OTK decks.
SPECIAL RULES
- Shards are banned.
- Nova is banned.
- OTKmakers MUST use rainbows.
- Rushers MUST use monos or duos.
- Nymphs are banned.
- No deck must contain more than 40 cards.
- Holy Light is illegal if used to damage a :death/ :darkness creature.
- You may only use up to 2 copies of the following cards: Sky Blitz, GotP, Voodoo Doll, any shield.
why would i ever use anything other than rogue? 6 elements, with shards, and only 3 banned cards
Yes. You have to use three cards from each listwhy would i ever use anything other than rogue? 6 elements, with shards, and only 3 banned cards
You are required to use some generally crappy cards, if I understand correctly.
Just Splashing Around!
Rules
- Your deck must generate and use quanta of EXACTLY two elements.
- One of these elements must be generated ONLY by the mark of the deck.
- All cards including shards are permitted except Discord, which is banned because it generates quanta of random elements, and any card (such as Nova or Immolation) which generates quanta of more than one element.
- Upgraded cards are banned.
We didn't have vanilla speedbuilding in a long time. Can we have one again? :)
Rules: 6 random cards in 6 random elements are revealed 15 minutes before the game starts. Decks can only use those 36 cards (Pi/Pe/M are allowed of any element and amount as usual).
7 random cards in 7 random elements is better and prevents the likelihood of there being one OP deck.I'm fine with improvement. It's always been 6x6, that's why I suggested it.
A tourney ruleset centered around cards divided based on card art. I don't think there are many remarkable features on the main art, though a few can be used. You can also use backgrounds, which usually have one color shared for many different cards.One tourney based on this idea was 'The Shoe Cobbler's Dilemma', where the decks depended on the amount of legs the creatures had in their art. (credits for that tournament goes to mathman101) I think it was a success, but I recall lot of discussion before about the amount of legs on some arts (Bone Dragon, Shrieker, etc). Since some of the arts are pretty ambiguous, the TOs will need to do the categorizing carefully.
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Card's cost | Maximum number of copies allowed |
0-2 | 6 |
3 | 4 |
4 | 3 |
5-6 | 2 |
7-12 | 1 |
13-15 | 0 |
volcano:Firestall is meta, and volcano rules put allow it to be built perfectly.
weather cards: firestorm, firebolt, fahrenheit
-can't use creatures
...I did try to make sure to shake things up enough with special rules, so that no meta deck can be used; stalls might be too strong.
Quantum Theoriesmark cards should be banned
Not Allowed
No pillars or pendulums except quantum.
No Nova's/Supernova's.
No blackholes.
No earthquakes
No tridents
No shards of focus
40 card deck size maximum
Allowed
Upgraded and Non Upped allowed
Mark Cards allowed
Any Mark is allowed
Pulverizer is allowed
Immolation is allowed but cannot be upgraded.
Deck may only contain 3 immolation at MOST
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In case of 16 or more players, tournament prizes will be increased. |
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For Ruperts cube, keeping track of 3 decks per player seems a bit much for the host, especially if they are not public. There is also a high chance of the game being decided by deckchoice alone, which normally wouldnt be a problem, but not allowing counterbuilding in the second game is a bit of a letdown (or if decks are public, even the first).That problem might be solved if players don't have to stick to the same decks, but rather to the same elements.
gravity shield in this format is better than dim shield, it block almost every creature, everyone will use a monograv or a liquid shadow/am stallMaybe. Cards can be removed from the Allowed List for balancing. Cards can also be added with borderline reasoning (Ice Bolt and Drain Life). It's just the basic idea that I posted.
Also has anyone got a solution for the infinite desyncs in the kill yourself tournament?
Same rules as The Community Choice (people voting on which cards are banned) except the tournament organizers don't tell until after the poll is done if the voted cards are banned or if every other card is banned. I guess pillars/pendulums/marks will be allowed in all circumstances.(Emphasis mine.)
STEREOTYPES
Upped/Semiupped
Each deck may only use cards from one pool, and any dragons, pillars and pendulums. You can change pools between games.
(Each pool represents a particular archetype, being rush, domin/denial, break and stall)
We will use this as our next Upgraded tournament.All decks must be 60 cards
All decks must contain the following:
After each game, players must have an additional 6 quantum pillars in their deck
We will use this as our next Semi-Upgraded tournament.Master Gardener
-Semi-upgraded (but could be unupgraded, too)
-Before tourney begins, players must choose to be an organic gardener or not. Choices made public; cannot change
-Organic gardeners may use organic aids but not poisonous aids
-Non-organic gardeners may use poisonous aids but not organic aids
-Quantum pillar banned; other PPMS allowed; any mark allowed
-Any cards not listed below are banned
Semi-upgraded rules:
1. Players get 3 starting upgrades
2. For each unique type of gardener's tools and/or companion creatures in deck, allow one additional deck upgrade (ex: 3 Antlions and 5 Gnome riders and 2 Ice Shields = 3 unique types = 3 additional deck upgrades)
3. For each copy of shard of patience, reduce deck upgrades by 3
Gardener's Tools
Companion Creatures
Organic aids - available to organic gardeners only
Poisonous aids - available only to non-organic gardeners
Start out with 1 element of your choice, and can only use monos.
For each player you beat, add their element to your arsenal (defeated players may keep their elements)
If you beat an opponent with the same element as you, roll 1dx for a random one (x=12-the elements you already have)
Start out with 1 element of your choice, and can only use monos.
For each player you beat, add their element to your arsenal (defeated players may keep their elements)
If you beat an opponent with the same element as you, roll 1dx for a random one (x=12-the elements you already have)
I had done my best to scour the battle results of War, but I looks like I made a few mistakes regarding 2nd place. So I have made adjustments for the fact that Life never came in 2nd place and Earth did, and Entropy only placed 2nd once.
This is the possible Underdog Tournament (as it is currently written):The Underdog Tourney:
*To understand the following rules, rares means ALL rares, whether they be normal rares or even ultra rares. It doesn't matter whether we're talking shards, weapons, nymphs, Miracle, Pharaoh, Arctic Squid, marks, or even extreme rares such as Holy Cow. However, keep in mind that the following rules are each for the listed elements in that particular rule; different rules will apply for different elements.
1. All regular purchasable Other cards are allowed, including Relics.
2. Because Water has never placed 1st or 2nd in War, ALL cards are allowed except: shards.
3. Because Earth, Gravity, Light, and Time have never won War, ALL cards are allowed except: ALL rares.
4. Because Death and Life won once with no 2nd place in War, all unupgraded, non-rare cards are allowed except: Bonewall, Poison, Horned Frog, and Adrenaline.
5. Because Entropy won once and placed 2nd once in War, all unupgraded, non-rare cards are allowed except: Nova, Lycanthrope, Mutation, and Pandemonium.
6. Because Fire, Air, Darkness, and Aether have all placed better in War than those listed in the above rules, with the exception that any number of desired unupgraded pillars and pendulums are allowed, a maximum of 2 unupgraded, non-rare cards from each element is allowed to be played from those elements, and those allowed cards are:(http://URL)Fire, Air, Darkness, and Aether allowable cardsHover over cards for details, click for permalinkDeck import code : [Select]
***For rule #s 4, 5, and 6 combined, a maximum of 2 cards are allowed to be upgraded.
I'm pretty sure Janice read that, I feel it is just she doesn't want that many changes to her original idea.
Give me a list of what you think the three least played, not overpowered cards in each of these elements should be.