Elements PvP Tournament - Your ideas!

[kaempfer13]

About Kys: We need a good ruling for the dc happening if you die on your own turn. i originally intented to overwrite the dc replay rule with shorter turn number on deathscreen for that particular tournament, but there are ways one player could clearly have the better deck, but if the ai takes over early the other player may still manage to die early. Also deckout has been hit by the bans a little too harshly imo. Self deckout is normally a bit too easy to achieve, but now there is just dial and hourglass. Also I find decking the opponent out more interesting in this context, but thats up to debate.


For Ruperts cube, keeping track of 3 decks per player seems a bit much for the host, especially if they are not public. There is also a high chance of the game being decided by deckchoice alone, which normally wouldnt be a problem, but not allowing counterbuilding in the second game is a bit of a letdown (or if decks are public, even the first).

[Submachine]

For Ruperts cube, keeping track of 3 decks per player seems a bit much for the host, especially if they are not public. There is also a high chance of the game being decided by deckchoice alone, which normally wouldnt be a problem, but not allowing counterbuilding in the second game is a bit of a letdown (or if decks are public, even the first).

That problem might be solved if players don't have to stick to the same decks, but rather to the same elements.

Here is a bit simpler idea though:

Inefficiency

I picked the most expensive/cost-inefficient cards of all elements (where the effect does not justify the cost, e.g: Plate Armor). Only the following cards would be allowed:

Allowed Cards List

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4t3 4tc 4vd 4vm 4vn 4vo 52k 52n 52p 52s 52u 55l 55m 55o 55p 55v 560 561 568 56i 58r 58t 59m 5c3 5c4 5c8 5c9 5f3 5i8 5ih 5ij 5la 5lb 5ld 5le 5lk 5ll 5ls 5oe 5of 5oh 5rl 5rn 5rr 5rs 5rt 5se 5uq 5us 5ut 5uu 5v2 5v8 5vi 61s 61v 621 623 626 62c

+ Procrastination

Adding Purple Nymph, Eternity, Fractal, and Sky Blitz or removing Mitosis, Light Nymph, Sapphire Charger, or SoR can also be considered.

[Manuel]

gravity shield in this format is better than dim shield, it block almost every creature, everyone will use a monograv or a liquid shadow/am stall

[Submachine]

gravity shield in this format is better than dim shield, it block almost every creature, everyone will use a monograv or a liquid shadow/am stall

Maybe. Cards can be removed from the Allowed List for balancing. Cards can also be added with borderline reasoning (Ice Bolt and Drain Life). It's just the basic idea that I posted.

[Naii_the_Baf]

Speedbuilding: Quickdraw


Special Rules

• Shards are banned.
  
• Before the tournament starts, players will draw a card in Blab using the /draw e function, and will build decks containing at least 4 copies of the drawn card for all of their matches.
  
• For each match, you have to use at least 3 copies of your current opponent's card.
  
• Card bans as needed.
  

[kaempfer13]

I would probably draw 5 cards for each, giving them some choice (still require nomore than 6 or at most 7 copies total so that you have to use no more than 2 different one unless you want to). Im a little bit iffy about tournaments without perfectly fair cardpools available (would be somewhat fixed by requiring the same amount of copies from either cardpool) to players and having to speedbuild every round, but it could be fun.

[kaempfer13]

About inefficiency: Running bad cards isnt actually fun if there is no payoff. Running many of them should allow you to be less restricted in some other way. When all you play is trash (and cards misslabelled as trash) decks are just slow and struggle even vs ai3, also such a meta is unusually prone to be dominated by the best remaining deck.(also sofo, hope, hourglass, sor seem missplaced in that category among others)

Also has anyone got a solution for the infinite desyncs in the kill yourself tournament?

[CactusKing]

Also has anyone got a solution for the infinite desyncs in the kill yourself tournament?

For disconnects arising from deckout, the simplest solution is either to nerf deckout to the point where no one plays it (as I tried to by banning several key self-deckout cards), or go with the suggestion of making default deckout wins still count as wins (meaning we can take screenshots as usual).
For anything else you can take a screenshot of just before you die.

[kaempfer13]

not quite, there are several ways to not win as fast by withholding creatures or ccing them if your opponent gave you some (also ccing the opponents singularity and stuff). a single screenshot from each player (obviously both will get their losecondition eventually and the ai wont kill itself) and even ttl in addition to it are not enough to establish a winner.

[Basman-1453]

it came from between the folds of time and space and worlds and light and dark something that is but should not be slipped in and called out to them as their god and IT IS STILL HERE

Tempered Glass
Special Rules

• Upgraded cards are allowed/not allowed. (Suit it for the week.)
• For the purpose of this Tournament, the community gets to decide which Shard will be banned. In this thread there is (going to be) a poll for which Shards the community want banned. Each player may select up to 2 Shards.
• Once voting period is over, TOs will roll one shard with the Blab dice roll. If the shard rolled belongs to the top six the community wants to be banned, the lower six will be banned for the Tournament. If the shard rolled belongs to the lower six the community wants to be banned, the upper six will be banned for the Tournament.
• TOs will then create an additional banlist from the cards chosen.

[Mr Muffin]

Same rules as The Community Choice (people voting on which cards are banned) except the tournament organizers don't tell until after the poll is done if the voted cards are banned or if every other card is banned. I guess pillars/pendulums/marks will be allowed in all circumstances.

[Basman-1453]

Same rules as The Community Choice (people voting on which cards are banned) except the tournament organizers don't tell until after the poll is done if the voted cards are banned or if every other card is banned. I guess pillars/pendulums/marks will be allowed in all circumstances.

(Emphasis mine.)

Or, rather, can't tell.