Elements PvP Tournament - Your ideas!

[RapidStar_]

My Idea.... (Upped or unupped)

The Pairs:

When you craete a new account or go onto trainer, the pairs are as follows:

 
 
 
 
 
 

Rules:
1. Your deck can only consist of cards from *ONE* pair
2. Your deck can be 60% one element max, so minimum is 12 cards for one element if your deck is 30 cards.
3. Your are allowed any mark.
4. Nymphs are Banned, Shards are allowed with the exception of being banned
5. The maximum amount of cards for a deck is 40 cards.

Here are a list of some banned cards: (Idk how to do the pictures)
Discord
Black Hole
Dimensional Shield
Shard of Focus
Nova
Shard of Sacrifice
Earthquake
Trident
Shard of Patience
Wings
Sundial

(All I can think of at this moment)

[kirbylover314]

The total of the letters of each unique card in the deck may not exceed [some number]. If upped, unupped and upped cards may be considered different to make it easier to get decks under a certain letter limit.

Spoiler for Examples:

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 8pr

"Quantum Pillar" has 13 letters in it. The total letter count of this deck is 13.

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4t3 8pr

"Quantum Pillar" has 13 letters in it. "Dagger" has 6 letters in it. The total letter count of this deck is 19.

[Submachine]

Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock and more!

Special Rules:

For this, the Tournament Organizers build 12 different decks, where there is no strongest deck and every deck is definitely beaten by at least 3 other from the list.

This would require 0 deckbuilding effort from participants.

If the Organizers balance the decks right, it might lead to some fun games.

(Sidenote: Idk, I'm just lazy to build decks and wanted to suggest something to counter that )

[kaempfer13]

(partially) Upgraded Speedbuilding: Oracle Challenge!

The idea is to combine the Oracles predictions skills with the drawback of having to put 5 of a random card into your deck, though that might take a bit too long to execute, so I have another less fun variant ready, too. I suppose it's too -consuming to actually use, but was fond enough of the idea to post it anyways. It is probably better suited as an independent PvP-Event held over several days.

Slow variant:
The 2 players that face each other roll a dice to determine who the Oracle is for this match (or the TO does it for them). The Oracle must then publicly generate a random card (using /card e) (should we allow a single optional reroll?). Eventually it must include 5 of that card in its deck. However its the other player's turn to build a deck first. (S)he knows 5 cards of his/her opponents deck and can build to counter that. Within 15 minutes the non-Oracleplayer has to show all of his/her deck to the Oracle. This exact deck must be used for the entirety of the match! Now the Oracle is given 15 minutes to build their own deck. The two decks are then used against each other in a Bo3. Depending on how powerful these roles turn out to be, the weaker role will be offered to use more upgrades than the other. I think it possible the Oracle is so powerful that it ought to fight a fully upped deck with no upgrades.

Faster variants:
Options:
1. Both players speedbuilt including 5 of a randomly rolled card in their decks (I think the only way to avoid horrible imbalance here is to give the same card to both players)
2. 1 player publicly rolls a card. They must include 5 copies of it, but therefore may fully upgrade their deck, while their opponent may not use any upgrades.

Bans: I think all cards that may completely shutdown a strategy by themselves should be banned for this tournament, including the following:

Spoiler for mustban:

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4vl 53e 56i 5lm 593 5ia 5oo 5ro 5um 61t

Spoiler for might need to ban:

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4vg 500 52o 52r 534 55p 55r 55v 568 59c 5c4 5fk 5ib 5ic 5ig 5io 5lg 5lk 5ol 5rk 5rp 5v1 61u 622 625 62m

Possible even AoE might be op, but I dont want to ban too much.

[kaempfer13]

Deck Skeletons:
In this tournament you are allowed to choose from deck skeletons containing some cards that you must run, otherwise you can fill in any cards that are not banned to complete the deck.
I aim to include synergies that are normally too weak to be playable, but may be fun to use in an environment where they actually can win.

Spoiler for The deckskeletons:

Scarabs fly slowly at first

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562 562 5op 5op 5pa 5pa 5rs 5rs 5rs 5rs

above the rainbow

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5ia 5la 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lb 5le 5od 5oe 5oj

literal skeleton

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52m 52m 52m 52m 52m 52n 52r 5f9 5f9 5rk

skindissolving gas

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52n 52n 52r 52r 52v 52v 5om 5om 5om 5om

infinite ammo

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52n 52r 52v 74h 74h 74h 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds

In order to make sure all the cards are used I'd like to enforce the rule that QI may not exceed 7 for any element.

Spoiler for QI-Explanation:

The quantum index relates the amount of quanta needed to play all cards in your deck to your quantaproduction. The formula is: (Sum of quantacost and abilitycost of all cards in deck - Sum of instant quanta production in deck (upped pillars, Nova, Immolation))/(Amount of pillars of that element (pends count half for each element, qts a quarter for all elements))

Until recently you could check it here http://elements.alanbeam.net/qi.php, unfortunately the site was recently deleted. If there's interest I could make a Gdoc in the future sometime.
Not sure how to include soul catcher in this.

Decks might be pretty unbalanced right now, skeletonspecific upgrades and adjusting the amount of mandatory cards to be included should balance them better.

[Naii_the_Baf]

Vanilla Ice Cream


Special Rules

• Shards are banned.
  
• Any creature with an active ability is banned.
  
• Any permanent with an active ability is banned.
  
• Any spell which is able to deal damage directly to its target is banned.
  
• AoE spells are allowed at a maximum of two copies.
  
• Pillars, Pendulums, and Mark Cards may be used freely.
  
• Discord, Pandemonium, Nymph's Tears, Miracle, Black Hole, Dimensional Shield, Earthquake, Fire Shield, and Thorn Carapace are banned.
  
• Balancing as needed.
  

Spoiler for Allowed Card List:

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4t3 4t4 4t5 4tb 4tc 4ve 4vf 4vg 4vj 4vk 4vn 4vo 52h 52k 52l 52m 52n 52o 52q 52r 52t 52v 55n 55o 55p 55q 55t 562 563 58q 58r 58t 592 594 595 5bt 5bu 5c0 5c2 5c4 5c5 5c6 5c7 5c9 5f1 5f2 5f6 5f7 5f9 5i6 5i7 5i9 5ia 5id 5ih 5l9 5la 5ld 5lf 5lg 8pi

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5lh 5lj 5lk 5lm 5of 5og 5oi 5oo 5op 5rj 5rk 5rm 5rr 5ru 5ul 5uo 5up 5uq 5ur 5uu 5v0 5v1 5v2 61p 61r 61s 61v 621 622 624 626 8pi

[Basman-1453]

This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
-- Revelation 13:18 (NIV)

Mark of the Beast

Special Rules

• The deck must contain six copies of a card that costs six quanta ('six of sixes'). A list of cards will be supplied below.
• The deck must also contain exactly six unique cards (Pillars, Pendulums, and 'six of sixes' included).
• The following cards are (tentatively) banned in both unupgraded and upgraded forms:
  • Novae
  • Discords
  • Shards of Sacrifice
  • Black Holes
  • Shards of Integrity
  • Shards of Patience
  • Fog Shields
  • Shards of Freedom
  • Dusk Shields
• The following cards are (tentatively) not banned, but they do not contribute to the 'six of sixes' clause:
  • Unupgraded Shards of Focus
  • Fire Shields
  • Dimensional Shields

Spoiler for Unupgraded cards that can contribute to 'six of sixes':

• Aflatoxins
• Ice Shields
• Firefly Queens
• Unstable Gases
• Procrastinations
• Ghosts of the Past
• Eternities
• Immortals

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Spoiler for Upgraded cards that can contribute to 'six of sixes':

• Improved Antimatters
• Chimerae
• Diamond Shields
• Nymph's Tears
• Archangels
• Elite Queens
• Twin Universes

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Click for a graphic list that includes both unupgraded and upgraded cards!

[kaempfer13]

Sideboard tournament:

The hosting TO may not participate (this makes it even more difficult to get enough players, but I really think there needs to be someone to keep the legality of decks in check).
At the start of the tournament each player sends a deck and a list of 10 cards (which we will call sideboard list) to the hosting TO. Each game has to be played with a variation of that deck. Only changes allowed to the original decklist are to add cards from the sideboardlist or replace cards in the deck with cards from the sideboard list. If you want to add multiple copies of a specific card you need to have that many copies of the card in your sideboardlist. After each match the winner has to send the hosting TO all the deckvariations he/she used.

Possible extra rules:
- Preset deck (the players all have to use the same base deck and only send in their sideboardlist which is lame, but may make things easier to balance and track)
- free deckmark change
- forced to play baselist in first game each match
- changing pillars to any other pillar for free (pillar meaning quantasource that is not nova, immo, soul catcher); pretty iffy though (the deck will look completely different, it allows way more changes)
- option to just remove cards from deck if you have unused cards in your sideboardlist (or maybe only allow that if players send in a sideboardlist with blanks, though in that case they might just move cards from their deck to the sideboardlist in the first place)

Bans: Rainbowdecks may be stronger than usual here, if QT and nova are banned, so should be discord, devourer and eq. Dims is weaker than usual and may be okay, while wings is probably stronger. If mark change is allowed easily splashable cards may need to be banned from the sideboardlist only. Hate cards like holy light and purify may need to be banned.

[CactusKing]

How about a tournament where you can't use more than 2 copies of any card? Maybe with an exception for quantum generators.
Expanding on that, perhaps one where you can use up to 2 copies of any allowed upgraded card, but up to 3 copies of unupped cards?

[Basman-1453]

"And on Tuesdays we offer endless wings." "Haha, cool. I have those." "YOU WHAT?" "AAAAAAAA"

Endless Wings
Special Rules

• Upgraded cards and shards are not allowed.
• All shields except for Wings are banned.
• Discords, Butterfly Effects, Black Holes, Amber Nymphs, Pulverizers, Earthquakes, Fire Bolts, Deflagrations, Arctic Squids, Trident, Nymph's Tears, Sanctuaries, Blue Nymphs, Steals, and Fractals are banned.
  • Devourers and Mitoses in the same deck is banned.

[kaempfer13]

A quick draft for a weatherbased tournament

At the start of the tournament choose a faction
All decks must include 9 weather cards of your faction and follow its rules

rain:
weather cards: flooding,forest spirit, fog shield
only aquatic creatures allowed: all water creatures + frogs+ forest spirit (obv)+ virus


sunny: photon, holy light, morning star, rustler, sundial
can't use darkness cards

night:
weather cards: dusk, nightfall, liquid shadow, nightmare, cloak, lycanthrope
can't use light cards, must use 12 weather cards instead of just 9

lightning stroke:
weather cards: spark, lightning, skyblitz, thunderstorm
-for each creature you include you have to run a quintessence, unless the creature is immortal or capable of burrowing
-cannot use shields
-you have to use an air mark

tectonic trouble: earthquake, trident
-can only use spells, permanents and airborne creatures
-cannot use nymphs tears

volcano:
weather cards: firestorm, firebolt, fahrenheit
-can't use creatures

chaos:
weather cards: pandemonium, chaos seed, butterfly effect
-cannot use the same mark twice in a match

weather forecast:
weather cards: precognition+ chosen faction's weather cards
-at the start of each round choose either player you might face next round and adopt their weather factions rules; if you made it to the final choose either of the 3rd place matchplayers (and if fighting for 3rd place take either finalist)
- announce your choice in chat before you start playing your games
- must run precognition in every deck; in decks that use at least 3 elements precognition will count to the total weather cards on top of the chosen factions weather cards, in duos and monos it won't count to the 9(or 12 in case of night) weather cards required


I havent put all that much thought into balance yet, though i did try to make sure to shake things up enough with special rules, so that no meta deck can be used; stalls might be too strong. Tectonic trouble and volcano are too gimmicky as of now. If there is interest I can revise it later.

[CactusKing]

Looks like a fun idea I would be interested in playing, but

volcano:
weather cards: firestorm, firebolt, fahrenheit
-can't use creatures

...I did try to make sure to shake things up enough with special rules, so that no meta deck can be used; stalls might be too strong.

Firestall is meta, and volcano rules put allow it to be built perfectly.