Elements PvP Tournament - Suggestions and Feedback

[mafidufa]

It would have been nice if it had been unupped though. With a special themed tournament like that I would think inclusiveness would come before making sure the tournaments follow the 3 unupped 1 upped rule. Personally I saw the thread in time for the Western tournament and was looking to make some time for it on my saturday night but seeing it was upgraded made me lose interest. Granted I am not a regular tournament player anymore and I had a few other things going on but the final straw that broke the pegasus' back was that I didn't feel like spending a few hours deck making only to be outclassed by a fully upgraded dick deck.

[dragonsdemesne]

I can definitely understand mafidufa's point of view.  That's why I've suggested in some other threads that we have more tournaments of different tiers, like ones allowing or not allowing upgrades/rares/shards, to account for the varying scales of players here. 

The major problem with that is it requires more tournament organizers to volunteer their time, or the same ones to volunteer more time.

[Higurashi]

We've had lots of thematic tourneys before, including Halloween and Christmas. There was no real reason to break a rule we've always followed.

[jippy99]

Based on the feedback and the general feeling that this class idea was a good idea, it is quite likely that we have more tourneys like this in the near future.

[bucky1andonly]

Allow the new shards to be used already.  There is no point in zanz making new cards if we cannot use them in events.

[Calindu]

Allow the new shards to be used already.  There is no point in zanz making new cards if we cannot use them in events.

Yeah, basically you just asked for SoSa spam.

[bucky1andonly]

SoSa sucks.  Spam it all you want, I will use sundials so I don't attack, and all that happens is that you've lost a lot of hp.  There are counters to things, banning them because people will use them is stupid and they need to be allowed in tourneys.  There are unupped shards now, and most tourneys are unupped, they are new cards, there is no reason to keep banning them.

[Aves]

Mmm I agree with bucky here. Is there a reason why we shouldn't have shards given the new changes? We should at least have a trial/test run to see how they work in the new meta- if they're still OP, they can just be banned again.

[dragonsdemesne]

there is no reason to keep banning them.

Yes there is; the newbies will cry great rivers of mighty tears if you use shards against them! :p  I can see banning shards in some cases in order to let the newbies play, but surely once in awhile they should be allowed.

[bogtro]

I can't see the point of allowing shards, particularly since they are considered more than somewhat OP, in tournaments that are relatively accessible to everyone. If you want to "trial run" them, at least keep them out of unupped tournaments - upped tournaments are, by definition, more selective, and there is an argument to be had there that they could be given a try.

However, in my opinion, shards really shouldn't be allowed into tournaments and events (at all). Particularly with the new shards coming in, we lose a great amount of the metagame in favor of shards - that's not something I'd like to see. Since this will happen in EtG, I'd at least like tourneys and events to remain relatively secluded from what I consider to be this poison of the new shards. Despite what bucky seems to think, were new shards allowed in these events, the entire metagame would have to be based around them. Carrying sundials in a deck that normally wouldn't carry them just because of SoSa is a poor argument to claim that "SoSa sucks" - it's instead a great argument in favor of "SoSa is OP". I won't get into why I feel SoSa is OP here, but the point is there isn't any good reason to allow a card that will take up the entire metagame into these types of events.

[dragonsdemesne]

And now for something completely different...

I was just thinking it would be nice to have a thread that consisted of all of those who placed in the top 4 in each tournament each week.  Each week a post would be added for the 8 people (4 east 4 west) that got reward codes.  This idea was prompted by me trying to figure out how many times I've made it to the finals and lost :p

[jippy99]

And now for something completely different...

I was just thinking it would be nice to have a thread that consisted of all of those who placed in the top 4 in each tournament each week.  Each week a post would be added for the 8 people (4 east 4 west) that got reward codes.  This idea was prompted by me trying to figure out how many times I've made it to the finals and lost :p

I did start on that project or one similar but it took so long to get so little accomplished that I decided to stop.  Not a bad idea tho.