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Sorry, I meant the chat room found here http://elementscommunity.org/chat/blab.php

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Both kongregate and main site work for the actual in-game duels, but only elementscommunity.org/chat/blab.php contains the tournament chat room, separate from the other two domains.

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« Reply #626 on: August 16, 2017, 07:08:05 am »
Please post the challonge brackets in the tournament thread, preferably editing it into the first post. It might seem like a hassle, but it's a small one and super useful when looking back at past tournaments.
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« Reply #627 on: March 10, 2018, 12:53:15 am »
after 53 pages no one suggested a rule where IF u can show u used the wrong deck or the import screwed hard your deck u can show your proof and do a rematch with the right deck?



clearly my import deck screwed up by himself, is too hard asking a rematch with my fixed deck rather than give a free win?

is my fault but not really lol, looking my pastebin:



i didn't copied a single "u" lol, no one really deserve a loss for a thing that has nothing to do with missbuilding or using illegal card, lul i also """blame""" zanz for making a thing where u can memorize AT LEAST 3 decks (even in your browser cache)

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« Reply #628 on: March 10, 2018, 02:19:04 am »
What you're suggesting is to add something that's easily faked and exploited to the rules which will only cause tournaments to go on longer and become something competitive players feel a need to exploit so they can stay at the same level as their opponents.
Unfortunately, it sucks but at the end of the day, it is your blunder. Setting up your deck properly is your responsibility whether you're willing to own up to it or not. Not the TO's. On the bright side, this is an opportunity you can learn from so it doesn't occur in the future. ^^

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Re: Elements PvP Tournament - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1275006#msg1275006
« Reply #629 on: March 10, 2018, 03:18:40 am »
Some might argue that if it's an isolated incident an honorable oponent would offer you the chance of a rematch, since we're all here just trying to have fun.

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« Reply #630 on: March 10, 2018, 03:20:18 am »
i really don't see how this is different from a desynch or any other decision where the TO is required (still things that u can fake)

if i have  :time :aether deck and  :darkness mark obviously the import didn't work, i declared it to my opponent at turn 1 without even seeing his cards;  by showing that screenshot to TO, i can at least try to get a rematch for that battle, using same decks (obviously the last decision goes to the TO), in the worst scenario i still get a lost, in the best i got a rematch, nothing really complicated

obviously the wrong import should be declared asap, not with 3 cards left; in most cases, u will know it because u will have a wrong mark

competitive players feel a need to exploit

pls, half of players that played war was nominated for sportmanship http://elementscommunity.org/forum/war/war-11-sportsmanship-and-favorite-decks/, i am one of the newest guys here and i signed up in september 2015, never seen or read someone faking screenshots
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Re: Elements PvP Tournament - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1275015#msg1275015
« Reply #631 on: March 10, 2018, 10:49:03 am »
i really don't see how this is different from a desynch or any other decision where the TO is required (still things that u can fake)

if i have  :time :aether deck and  :darkness mark obviously the import didn't work, i declared it to my opponent at turn 1 without even seeing his cards;  by showing that screenshot to TO, i can at least try to get a rematch for that battle, using same decks (obviously the last decision goes to the TO), in the worst scenario i still get a lost, in the best i got a rematch, nothing really complicated

obviously the wrong import should be declared asap, not with 3 cards left; in most cases, u will know it because u will have a wrong mark

competitive players feel a need to exploit

pls, half of players that played war was nominated for sportmanship http://elementscommunity.org/forum/war/war-11-sportsmanship-and-favorite-decks/, i am one of the newest guys here and i signed up in september 2015, never seen or read someone faking screenshots

Thing is, now you know what deck he has, and some people may put in a couple specific cards to give them an advantage (this can go both ways, your opponent also knows your deck and hence can do the same). With desynch, it's not under your control but choosing what deck you play is.
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« Reply #632 on: March 10, 2018, 10:54:28 am »
Use this to store your decks: http://elementscommunity.org/tools/mydecks/

Way better than just storing them as plain text somewhere. You have previews, categories, and a button that selects the whole deck code for you to copy so you don't miss any symbol from the deck code. Plus, it's linked to your forum account, so you can access it from anywhere by just logging in.

Also, I agree with the others, your mistake, your loss.

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« Reply #633 on: March 10, 2018, 02:29:16 pm »
Some might argue that if it's an isolated incident an honorable oponent would offer you the chance of a rematch, since we're all here just trying to have fun.

I would say no, cause its not the opponent being honorable to say, lets replay, its you to be honorable and say "sorry, did a mistake, your win. 0:1"
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Re: Elements PvP Tournament - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7055.msg1275685#msg1275685
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Any chance we could get a few more tourneys in North America time zone?  I keep wanting to play in tourneys, but they're always at insane times.  I think I've made like 2 tourneys in the last 6 months.  The one this week, for example, is at 4am for me.

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« Reply #635 on: June 08, 2018, 12:56:26 am »
In regards to rule 4.4

The current rule reads as this :Posting about Tournaments Please don't post discussions on the forum regarding the metagame or decks for the upcoming tournament. Also please do not post or give away tournament decks while tournament is still in progress.

This is very loose and vague with many loopholes. I think this rule is in need of a desperate rewrite. I would like to start an unofficial thread to propose some rewrites and to spark some discussion.

My proposal for rule 4.4 rewrite: 4.4: Posting about Tournaments; Please don't post discussions on the forum or ingame chat regarding the metagame or decks for an upcoming tournament or a tournament in progress. Please do not post or give away tournament decks or strategy's for an upcoming tournament or a tournament in progress in the forums or ingame chat. Skirmishes and practices can be done at the players risk of having their decks and strategy's known by the other player; this falls on the players responsibility to make adjustments before the event.
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