Elements PvP Tournament - Suggestions and Feedback

[Manuel]

open discussion mean i can post my thoughts/decks before tournamnt start or talk about x playstyle is better?

after people post the best decks inexperienced players/people that doesn't have time or are lazy too put effort in it can simply log 5 minutes before the start, take the deck (rather than speedbuild) and play
i'm not saying i'm against it, it simply has more downside than benefits (the only i see is more partecipation maybe)

[ddevans96]

Posting about the tournament, be it publicly or in private, has always been something that was looked down upon. The rules explicitly state public posting, as private posting is hard to mediate.

This really isn't true - I've talked to a lot of people in private over the years about metas, in tournaments and in all other events, and I'm aware of many other conversations. Most of those people are extremely respected in PvP. The scene was built on that kind of communication - some people did it but it was never really frowned upon by anyone.

As the community's gotten smaller, many people seem to want to keep to themselves about such things - that's fine, but it's a newer development.

[Wyand]

...there was a tourney this morning...?



Btw no tourney has been announced for this week. Everyone taking seriously the +1 week rest/deckbuilding time.

[Wyand]

GMT 04 for next tourney? Nopls. 

[Wyand]

No tourney this week?

[Submachine]

No tourney this week?

This week we will have a fun tourney. We will post it tomorrow at latest.

[Wyand]

not much time left, let's make it a speedbuilder one

[Wyand]

I'm pretty much fed up with the fact that I'm always a nice guy and post my decks thus allowing others
to figure out my style. While others - even when they win - just don't care about posting their used decks.

Please make it compulsory for the TOP 3 to post their used decks after tourneys.

[Submachine]

That’s a good idea. I will discuss it with the other TOs if they agree and how we should go about it.

[PlayerOa]

Might as well give my opinion on the cause. To be frank I see no reason at all to post decks if I end third in a four-man tournament. If I win, I always post decks (unless I speedbuilt 8 decks which I didn’t save like last week :p)

Reading your style because of deckposting? I somewhat disagree. Tourney rules are so twisted that one would struggle to get a proper read of someone because they’re playing (and winning with) tier B/C decks. Play some league with me and you’ll figure out my style anyway.

Tldr: I’m fine with obligatory deckposting for winner, and I’ll keep doing that whether it’s mandatory or not. That’d be a neat little legality check as well. But I won’t post decks unless I actually finish well, i.e. 1st or maybe 2nd place.

[Wyand]

Reading your style because of deckposting? I somewhat disagree. Tourney rules are so twisted that one would struggle to get a proper read of someone because they’re playing (and winning with) tier B/C decks. Play some league with me and you’ll figure out my style anyway.

I play a lot of league with you, I already know a bit about you. Someone might play tier B/C decks, but those decks can also say a word or two about the user's thinking.

[MasterWalks]

I am pretty against mandatory posting.
Tournaments are reused and recycled. By having decks posted, people can look back and see the meta/winning decks and just use those. Its cheap and scummy but ya its gonna happen.

Whats the point of posting decks? Legality check? You should be able to tell a decks legality when you play it.
Also, for people like shockcannon, Oa, and myself, we speedbuild a lot of tournaments. i dont save those. Im speedbuilding a deck every 15 min i dont have time to sit and organize what decks i used and who i used them against.

I am firmly on the stance of optional deck posting.