Elements PvP Tournament - Suggestions and Feedback

[kirchj33]

There has been enough interest in chat during "American" times to probe and see if an alternate schedule for tourney times is feasable.

Higurashi is the woman in charge here and she states that it isn't feasible to change from the 3 hour rotating schedule because:

• We simply don't have enough reliable TOs to accomodate a schedule change
• Tourney participation is at an all-time high
• A change in schedule would require a massive overhaul to its current structure

Arguments against this include:

• A rotating schedule would be more fair to all players in all parts of the world, so that you could make at least one tourney every 6th or so week
• TOs from other timezones have not been explored as an option

Current system:
Schedule rotates about a 3 hour window.

Proposed change:
A 12-hour rotating schedule that works something like the following -
Week A: 2400 GMT & 1200 GMT
Week B: 2300 GMT & 1100 GMT
Week C: 2200 GMT & 1000 GMT
Week D: 2100 GMT & 900 GMT
Week E: 2000 GMT & 800 GMT

And so on until a 12th week is reached.

If there is enough interest, we could explore the option of staffing with proper TOs.  Please vote!

[jippy99]

Want me to start this topic in the tourney section?

[Jocko]

I think 12 hours is too much. 6 hs should do the trick.

[kirchj33]

Want me to start this topic in the tourney section?

Sure, or we could have a mod move it there.  Can you do that?

[MatrimKK]

Silly Murricans, I laff at yoo!

[n00b]

Silly Murricans, I laff at yoo!

Sorry... I don't speak Entroponic. Ken I haz en Inglush plese?

[jippy99]

Want me to start this topic in the tourney section?

Sure, or we could have a mod move it there.  Can you do that?

Higs can.  I don't think I can and if I can I have no idea how to.

[bucky1andonly]

The reason why there should be 3 tries is because if they fail the first time, and since there is a wait time between tries, they might have to go back to the rules to look up the answers, which is good, it means they are reading the rules.  The answers are not shown when you get them wrong either, which means they are forced to guess again, or look at the rules.  And given at least 3 days, there should be no reason for not looking over the rules well enough to get perfect on each quiz.

[plastiqe]

The problem with the current times is that the Eastern Tournament is always way past our bedtimes on the East Coast.  Considering that a large portion of Elements players live in the Eastern U.S. and Canada, many of us are left out when the tourney starts at 3:00am.  I've made the argument before that it is silly to have them 12 hours apart for maximum coverage because you end up holding tournaments when it is primetime on Midway Island in the middle of the pacific.  The best solution for myself and many others would be to just move the Eastern back a couple hours earlier.

[jippy99]

If you want to participate in the tourney and therefore take the quiz, you should know the rules beforehand.  Therefore, if you fail once, thats showing you don't know them.  Giving them two more tries is like on a school test, getting an F and having your teacher say review your notes and take a retest twice. 

[Scaredgirl]

This topic will soon be merged to Tournament Feedback topic. Discussion is fine, but we don't really need a poll because we already had one and we are aware of the activity peak hours.

Key thing to understand here is that no matter which times we choose, someone will have a problem with it. With 12 hours between tournaments, and the 3 hour window, I'd say we have it pretty well covered. Like Higurashi said, increasing the window more than that, would make organizing a nightmare because we would be often dependent on having that one organizer be online, or we would have no organizer at all. So unless we hire 20 TO's, or one TO that is online 24/7, there's not much we can do.

[kirchj33]

This topic will soon be merged to Tournament Feedback topic. Discussion is fine, but we don't really need a poll because we already had one and we are aware of the activity peak hours.

Key thing to understand here is that no matter which times we choose, someone will have a problem with it. With 12 hours between tournaments, and the 3 hour window, I'd say we have it pretty well covered. Like Higurashi said, increasing the window more than that, would make organizing a nightmare because we would be often dependent on having that one organizer be online, or we would have no organizer at all. So unless we hire 20 TO's, or one TO that is online 24/7, there's not much we can do.

Those of us on the east coast are not asking that our needs are specifically catered to, we're asking that others' needs are not specifically catered to and that people in all time zones are given a fair and equal chance if there can be some movement to organize enough reliable TO staffing.  It wouldn't be a big deal, except when the prizes are something as rare and valuable as nymphs and marks.  There are so few opportunities for players who are active and love the game to earn such a thing, it is a shame to see the opportunity slanted towards a specific demographic.