Elements PvP League - Suggestions and Feedback

[Jenkar]

All fixed.

[RavingRabbid]

Technical Suggestion:

Use less rows in the CL standings sheet.

[blarp]

Standings updated.

These matches were invalidated for the following reasons:
4/4/2013 12:27:15 - Odii Odsen - Cr33pnD3a7n; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/4/2013 13:26:54 - Odii Odsen - RavingRabbid; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/4/2013 13:47:30 - Cr33pnD3a7n - RavingRabbid; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/5/2013 14:05:49 - RootRanger - THEACCUSO; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.

If you notice any issues with the most recent update please contact one or both LOs.

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see any issues with these games. Had dragons check as well. Since we both missed it, could you double check? I know cr33 is at like 28-29 games and shouldn't be out of the prizepool if possible.

If I'm failing sorry. Figured it was worth asking.

[RootRanger]

Standings updated.

These matches were invalidated for the following reasons:
4/4/2013 12:27:15 - Odii Odsen - Cr33pnD3a7n; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/4/2013 13:26:54 - Odii Odsen - RavingRabbid; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/4/2013 13:47:30 - Cr33pnD3a7n - RavingRabbid; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/5/2013 14:05:49 - RootRanger - THEACCUSO; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.

If you notice any issues with the most recent update please contact one or both LOs.

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see any issues with these games. Had dragons check as well. Since we both missed it, could you double check? I know cr33 is at like 28-29 games and shouldn't be out of the prizepool if possible.

If I'm failing sorry. Figured it was worth asking.

I checked as well, and all of these matches seem to be valid. They are also recorded in the Match Results.
Perhaps they were accidentally recorded twice, then the copies were deleted? As far as I know, the Match Results and Standings are correct, and only the post about invalidated matches is incorrect.

[Jenkar]

Standings updated.

These matches were invalidated for the following reasons:
4/4/2013 12:27:15 - Odii Odsen - Cr33pnD3a7n; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/4/2013 13:26:54 - Odii Odsen - RavingRabbid; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/4/2013 13:47:30 - Cr33pnD3a7n - RavingRabbid; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.
4/5/2013 14:05:49 - RootRanger - THEACCUSO; Players played each other in the last 20 hours.

If you notice any issues with the most recent update please contact one or both LOs.

Maybe I'm blind but I don't see any issues with these games. Had dragons check as well. Since we both missed it, could you double check? I know cr33 is at like 28-29 games and shouldn't be out of the prizepool if possible.

If I'm failing sorry. Figured it was worth asking.

I checked as well, and all of these matches seem to be valid. They are also recorded in the Match Results.
Perhaps they were accidentally recorded twice, then the copies were deleted? As far as I know, the Match Results and Standings are correct, and only the post about invalidated matches is incorrect.

This sounds like the most reasonnable possibility. The matches are indeed valid and in the match results (and so standings). Will double check with cheesy.

[blarp]

What's the process for adding the games into google docs or whatever you use? Is it all by hand? Do you do every match and then go back through to see if any matches shouldn't be allowed? Do you do that all by hand? If so the error seems perfectly natural and props for the hard work! As long as it's all cleared up in the end it's all good

[Jenkar]

We have a tool that checks each battle inputted (for legality), still have to input by hand :>

[blarp]

We have a tool that checks each battle inputted (for legality), still have to input by hand :>

Could you give like the top 3 players of every season a special username/password where they could submit match results and if 2 separate trusted individuals with this login entered the same match result it'd be automatically submitted? Or just a secret page. AKA employ a bunch of mini LOs and give them each half a key.

The last season I played in with KRACH I was constantly imputing match results into xeno's tool, and I'm sure others would be happy to submit results. I mean it might be a little complicated to implement, but if you don't mind losing a part of your workload I think everyone would be happy having an even more regularly updated standings. (Not that you don't do a great job already!)

Abuse would be very easy to spot and if a mistake was made I'm sure someone in the league would point it out if the LOs didn't catch it. Could even have a mass doublecheck everything day before the season ended.


or you could link to an updated Xeno league tool and encourage members to post their updated images on the thread.

[Onizuka]

The fact that they would have to double check everything anyway basically removes the need for more people outside of LOs to insert. It doesn't matter if 10 other people double check it, because they are the only people on the line if there is something wrong. The only people currently entrusted to be able to play in things they organize are council entrusted people and there's no reason to change that.

There is currently nothing stopping anyone from having an unofficial league standings, but anything official must be done by LOs.

[blarp]

The fact that they would have to double check everything anyway basically removes the need for more people outside of LOs to insert. It doesn't matter if 10 other people double check it, because they are the only people on the line if there is something wrong. The only people currently entrusted to be able to play in things they organize are council entrusted people and there's no reason to change that.

There is currently nothing stopping anyone from having an unofficial league standings, but anything official must be done by LOs.

True I guess. Although a community effort isn't such a bad thing imo and should be able to be done just as accurately.

Double checking is a lot easier than doing it btw I think.

[Vangelios]

 Greetings for all, I thought a lot and I think for participate in leagues the players must have at least 15 posts, I realize that many players who have just come only to make volume, and not to dispute the league, and usually these players have less than 15 posts, of course not all, but most.
 We also have some experienced players waiting for a beginner appear to challenge to a duel, but never has time to face another experienced player.
 I know that my feedback will not solve, however filters somewhat this problem.

[dragonsdemesne]

I agree with the minimum post thing Vangelios mentioned.  Even if the person is just spamming topics, I wouldn't even care; at least it shows they've bothered to make a forum account and do something, rather than commit to a league match when they might not even know what they're agreeing to.  (if you look at those players with exactly 1 league game played, I'd argue those are probably in that group)