Elements PvP League - Suggestions and Feedback

[Calindu]

Shards be gone.

Totally this.

[Cheesy111]

Shards be gone.

Totally this.

SoFo and SoPa are problems in BL.  Not enough contact with SoI to tell either way.

[furballdn]

Shards be gone.

Totally this.

In CL, the most used were SoFo, SoSa, and SoI, along with SoD I think. Haven't seen much of the other shards.

[dragonsdemesne]

In CL this season I saw most of the shards at least once.  SoF, SoSa, SoD and SoI I saw the most.  The only ones I never saw at all this season were Void, Gratitude, and Patience.

[Vangelios]

I agree that many games are shard dependent but if shards are banned in leagues then where are we going to be able to use them in competitive pvp?  While I DO think that the shardless metagame is MUCH more balanced, I can't help but think that as long as a card exists there should be a place to use it in pvp.

I fully agree Regen, if cards are created, is for use,  what can be done now is just to reduce their effects as already suggested by RosutoSefi.

[blarp]

shards aren't that bad imo. sosac is annoying because even if used in a crappy deck it can beat a top tier one. sofo just ruins deck choices. when you build decks knowing that your opponent will most likely have sofos, they're manageable. but you can't run phase stalls or feral bonds, or sog, or sov, or sop, or hourglasses and stuff like that. I sometimes used some of my instosis builds when it was agreed to be a shardless or sofo/sosacless game, but wouldn't dream of doing that when sofo was playable. So that's my main issue with sofo and sosac.

As effective hard counters, you have to reflect those in your deck choices which reduce the playable decks and diversity in the games you play. I wouldn't ban them completely though.

[furballdn]

My views on shards and usage.
  Mostly in SoI rushes. I don't think anyone used them in a MA deck besides me.
  Seen a few times but quite rarely. Mostly in SoI rushes or debauchery (which I used a lot)
  Never seen it. You'd expect Zen to be in CL, but haven't even seen this.
  Argh. SoSa. Nearly every match contains at least one deck with these. Usable in blarp, sosac dials, and splat to counter basically any rush.
  SoI rushes. SoI rushes everywhere. Each game probably saw at least one SoI rush as well.
  Not a very common shard, but seen it a few times in SNbows
  Mostly in SoI rushes, but I've also seen these used for fast draw, such as in pillarless splat or debauchery.
  Oh god SoFo OP. If it's not banned, nearly every rainbow deck carried this.
  Seen it a few times in stalls, but it was really quite rare.
  Seen this much more than SoG. Used in stalls as well as comboing with SoSac
  Alternative to SoFre in SoI rushes or for use with mitosis. No other use besides it, and didn't see this much.
  Haven't seen this at all except in a few fun decks by calin.

Real "unrestricted" pvp is PvP2.

[mrpaper]

My views on shards and usage.
  Mostly in SoI rushes. I don't think anyone used them in a MA deck besides me.
  Seen a few times but quite rarely. Mostly in SoI rushes or debauchery (which I used a lot)
  Never seen it. You'd expect Zen to be in CL, but haven't even seen this.
  Argh. SoSa. Nearly every match contains at least one deck with these. Usable in blarp, sosac dials, and splat to counter basically any rush.
  SoI rushes. SoI rushes everywhere. Each game probably saw at least one SoI rush as well.
  Not a very common shard, but seen it a few times in SNbows
  Mostly in SoI rushes, but I've also seen these used for fast draw, such as in pillarless splat or debauchery.
  Oh god SoFo OP. If it's not banned, nearly every rainbow deck carried this.
  Seen it a few times in stalls, but it was really quite rare.
  Seen this much more than SoG. Used in stalls as well as comboing with SoSac
  Alternative to SoFre in SoI rushes or for use with mitosis. No other use besides it, and didn't see this much.
  Haven't seen this at all except in a few fun decks by calin.

Real "unrestricted" pvp is PvP2.

I agree with all excpt I've seen  shard a few times.  Also, not bannning or restricing these cards means you are throwing away most of the other 95% of cards.. or you are really likely to use.  How about it would be restricted as you can have no more then one (or 2?) of each shard in ure deck?

[furballdn]

I'd rather see just SoFo or just SoFo and SoSa banned.

[mesaprotector]

SoFo is a pain. Oddly, I hardly ever saw SoSa. Or any of the others, for that matter. If SoFo is nerfed I'd rather leave shards in BL, because IMO the problem is that SoFo is OP, not that shards are bad per se.

[nilsieboy]

i've played leagues with and without shards, and i gotta say that the shardless leagues were way more fun cause of more variety in decks and a bigger meta game.
I (and many others) just hate the shard based pvp meta game.

[regen2k9]

If you're not a fan of shards in leagues, then do you think that they shouldn't be included in ANY pvp event?  I just wonder because if they're not in leagues then where will they be used competitively, if at all?