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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1180182#msg1180182
« Reply #192 on: February 23, 2015, 04:07:37 am »
I need some clarification about desynch. vs disconnects.
From what I understood, desynch. errors cause strange things to happen and it's therefore no use to finish vs AI. I don't think I never experienced this. Disconnects are frequent and I think many people (and the league rules) call them "desynchs".
Tournements rules make the distinction but not here.
Do we get the same in-game error message in a desynch and a disconnect?
Please advise. Thanks.
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1181009#msg1181009
« Reply #193 on: March 03, 2015, 06:33:24 am »
If a player has joined one league but not the other, they may still join the other within the final month.

This ruling was made by joint decision of the LOs based on a consistent interpretation of the original intentions of the final month rule.
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1181045#msg1181045
« Reply #194 on: March 03, 2015, 04:56:56 pm »
I need some clarification about desynch. vs disconnects.
From what I understood, desynch. errors cause strange things to happen and it's therefore no use to finish vs AI. I don't think I never experienced this. Disconnects are frequent and I think many people (and the league rules) call them "desynchs".
Tournements rules make the distinction but not here.
Do we get the same in-game error message in a desynch and a disconnect?
Please advise. Thanks.
I am no League Organizer, but I guess a non-LO-answer is better than no answer.

What you said about DC's and Desynch's is right. When Desyncs happen, you usually replay that game (thus, same decks etc.) - so the same procedure as in a tourney-game. If you're a sportsman and you know you couldn't have one this game before the desync, you can also give your opponent the win.
Not sure if this is how we should actually do, but I always did this with my partner in leagues when desynchs happened (what doesn't happen often at all).

Quote from: League Rules
"In case of a desynchronization error, both players shall play the AI, unless both agree not to."
And yes, league rules are false when they use desynch to describe a disconnect. You will never play when a desynch happens, for obvious reasons.
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1181049#msg1181049
« Reply #195 on: March 03, 2015, 05:19:06 pm »
Many players use the term desync to refer to the disconnect issue.

If you receive the "strange things happened !" popup at the top of your screen, screenshot the strange things and you may claim a replay of the game even if you lose on your end.  If both players agree that the match was clearly decided before the desync, of course, the players may grant the game to one player or the other by mutual agreement.
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1182966#msg1182966
« Reply #196 on: March 20, 2015, 10:36:28 am »
Question. If one of the top 3 in BL happens to do better than that in CL, will the person who finishes 4th in BL win the 3rd place trophy?
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1182968#msg1182968
« Reply #197 on: March 20, 2015, 11:38:27 am »
Question. If one of the top 3 in BL happens to do better than that in CL, will the person who finishes 4th in BL win the 3rd place trophy?
CL takes precedence. It's in this post http://elementscommunity.org/forum/league-archive/upcoming-league-patch-notes/

With that said, I think the extra notes should be edited in to this main rule page. It's confusing, numbers don't coincide, and I found out just now that I still have to complete 10 CL matches despite playing 30 on BL to avoid a ban. Not that I don't plan to complete that, but still, I think these should be clarified.

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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1183000#msg1183000
« Reply #198 on: March 20, 2015, 07:30:59 pm »
Question. If one of the top 3 in BL happens to do better than that in CL, will the person who finishes 4th in BL win the 3rd place trophy?
CL takes precedence. It's in this post http://elementscommunity.org/forum/league-archive/upcoming-league-patch-notes/

With that said, I think the extra notes should be edited in to this main rule page. It's confusing, numbers don't coincide, and I found out just now that I still have to complete 10 CL matches despite playing 30 on BL to avoid a ban. Not that I don't plan to complete that, but still, I think these should be clarified.

That's an old rule that has been changed.  Players playing in both leagues must now complete a total of 30 matches (regardless of distriubtion among the two leagues) to avoid a ban, and 40 total to win a prize (with at least 25 in the league they are receiving the prize in.)  This is the first season the "10 in each" rule has not been in effect.
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1184014#msg1184014
« Reply #199 on: March 29, 2015, 02:28:55 pm »
I am going to be semi-available for CL games until the deadline, a) to help people who need to complete games, b) to get a taste for the Meta before joining for real next year.

It is my understanding that I will not be banned from either league because I have so many games completed in BL.

If it is judged that this is a disingenuous interpretation of the rules, then I am happy for the games I play in CL to be stricken from the record. As far as I can tell this is all legal.

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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1184179#msg1184179
« Reply #200 on: March 31, 2015, 12:10:36 am »
I want to bring up the ban rule one more time because now it's getting serious.

All of you know how underused CL was this season. Sometimes there was a whole week without a single match. In the end, only three participants were able to finish with exactly 25 matches to gain prizes.

With this being said, please overthink the ban rule, and start with this season. It won't get any better otherwise and it is not really fair for guys who can't play some weeks due to RL issues. A small line like 5 matches is still okay, but 20/30... seriously.
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1184193#msg1184193
« Reply #201 on: March 31, 2015, 12:55:40 am »
Well I'm favor CL prizes with 20 matches

Now another thing about shards, why we can't do one season with shards and the next without, why not take turns?
About bans, why not each player can play bans by default? more o less like trial each player can ban 2 cards to duel?

these things are interesting a lot.

@Ginyu Well I challenge a lot of times players to play CL but few accepts play with me, and you could challenge me many more than just one time because the CL I played just for fun.
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1195322#msg1195322
« Reply #202 on: July 03, 2015, 06:41:11 am »
Am I to late to start playing? If so when does the next season start?
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Re: Elements PvP League - Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7361.msg1195328#msg1195328
« Reply #203 on: July 03, 2015, 07:25:18 am »
Unfortunately, the time for joining leagues ended two days ago.
I can't say for sure when the next season is going to start, but according to the schedule it should be 1st of September.
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